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View Poll Results: Possible Reasons Hillary Clinton Lost
Russians 1 1.35%
Fake News 1 1.35%
James Comey 2 2.70%
She's a Woman (Hillary's Favorite) 1 1.35%
Hillary Clinton 69 93.24%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-29-2016, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Hillary lost because of a combination of a few reasons.

1. Democrats as a whole need to get back on message about the economy and jobs. I am all for gay rights and minorities, but the liberal elite has been shoving the transgender bathroom stuff and so on down our throats. Those rural voters on the rust belt states were tired of that, being called racist if they don't agree and the lack of focus on jobs. Hence PA, Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan went red.
Pretty much absurd. There are no people looking for jobs in CA? Only Wisconsin, Michigan and PA count? How does that work?

And what on God's earth has that to do with transgender bathrooms. You really need to sort you issues better

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2. The establishment needs to go. Much like the Republicans, the Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Clinton types need to go away for good. Time to bring in new blood like Tulsi Gabbard, Tammy Duckworth and John Fetterman types.
What in the world does that have to do with a loss driven by a Presidential candidate? Democrats picked up seats in both the House and Senate.

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3. The superdelegate needs to go. Nobody should be pledging support for candidates until votes are cast in their state. Hillary had 400 pledged superdelegates before a single vote was cast. Perception is everything and why vote if your guy has no chance. The DNC email leaks against Bernie nailed her coffin shut.
Garbage. Completely irrelevant to the main election.

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4. Democrats need to get the experience hang up out of their minds. America never seems to choose the most experienced candidate for office. Obama had only a few years of federal experience. Bill Clinton and bush jr were governors and trump has no govt experience.
No indication experience is a big driver of Clinton's nomination. More no one better.

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5. The candidate needs to be likable. Bernie was but Hillary wasn't. Hillary was not liked that much when she was First Lady either. She lacked charisma, was off message and couldn't excite or connect with voters.
Like Nixon? Eisenhower? Bush or Bush? You have to be kidding.

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Those 5 points combined are the reason Hillary lost.
Proximate reason for the loss was the slander from Comey. The longer range loss due to the decade long slander from the Republicans.

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On a side note Trump needs to shut up with his mouth and twitter account. We have a lot of mentally weak people living in our country ready to snap at a moments notice. When you have the incoming face of our country tweeting insanity, reckless abandon and negativity it breeds insanity, negativity and reckless abandon.
Yup. We elected a disaster. With a significant minority of the vote. And now we have to do what we always do in these cases...out last him.
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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That was plenty enough for many people. When enough people get tired of being demonized, mocked, shouted down, insulted, shamed, and/or ignored, they'll vote for whatever the people doing those things don't want, even if they don't really want it either. For many voters, this election was first and foremost a message to everyone in the cozy little relationship you're referring to that there's still one vital place where you can't shut us up or ignore us, and that's the ballot box.

AMEN. We roared. America heard us loud and clear.
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:21 PM
 
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Hillary lost because of a combination of a few reasons.

1. Democrats as a whole need to get back on message about the economy and jobs. I am all for gay rights and minorities, but the liberal elite has been shoving the transgender bathroom stuff and so on down our throats. Those rural voters on the rust belt states were tired of that, being called racist if they don't agree and the lack of focus on jobs. Hence PA, Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan went red.

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AMEN. Outside of the Acela Belt and left coast, no one takes a party seriously when letting Johnnie in the bathroom with Joanie matters most to the party.


It's the Economy, Stupid..every election
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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AMEN. We roared. America heard us loud and clear.
No.. Meowed in a minor way in a couple of narrow caverns. But that carried the day.

The end will be in four years...when you meow louder as it has gotten worse...
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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She lost because of this - every word is true:

5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win | MICHAEL MOORE

And, no, things aren't going to be okay. Not for a good long while. The next four years will be a calamity. Recession and war loom, not to mention total administrative chaos.

Holy Crap! Spot on every single one. It's so so sad. I know the angry white man who isn't a racist but Hilary isn't the woman they want.

They want some long haired, fashionable, etc to represent the first woman. Not Hilary. I know the Jess Ventura voter. I'm a millennial. I know TONS who are stocking up on popcorn ready to watch the **** show starting January 20th. They're already watching. They were all over my Facebook now they're.....silent. Watching and giggling.

Also both party have the one trick pony to pander votes. Democrats go all gay rights and immigration to get votes and Republicans just say Roe v. Wade and it's yes, yes abortion is THE #1 thing. Every republican has pushed it hard....Trump said jobs and that was different.

The problem is MOST republicans, the sane ones say okay I'm against it BUT it's not the end all. Bush Jr didn't get rid or it, Reagan didn't so it's not a hot priority.

Democrats need to stop Hispandering because they're a fickle bunch. More so than anyone. Say the right thing and they vote for you. Say one thing out of line and all of a sudden it's Viva whatever their country of descendant origin.....thus the Cuban voter in Florida. If he has said ALL Hispanics and had not kept harping on Mexicans specifically Florida would have been blue. I live in TX. The Hispanic vote is trippy. Mention them specifically and they're against you. If not it's "well....I'm El Salvadorian....he's talking about Mexicans not me so *shrugs*"

Republicans need the Benny Hinn bunch to keep coming out so they say the right things with 2nd amendment and abortion to keep the crazies clicking red. The majority are smarter and not so swayed by simply acting all Orange is the New Black Pennsatucky and saying "guns"

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Old 12-03-2016, 01:43 AM
 
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Hillary was anointed by the democratic national party and then was so far ahead in the polls but somehow lost the election.

It seems almost deliberate how Hillary threw the election, has anyone thought Hillary tried losing the election to keep her foundation and create chaos in the country?
She wasnt ahead in the polls, that was just smoke and mirrors created by fake news organizations and the like.
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Old 12-03-2016, 05:13 AM
 
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Hillary was anointed by the democratic national party and then was so far ahead in the polls but somehow lost the election.

It seems almost deliberate how Hillary threw the election, has anyone thought Hillary tried losing the election to keep her foundation and create chaos in the country?

Who spends $770,000,000 to lose an election?

Trump spent less than 1/2 of that to win it.
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Old 12-03-2016, 05:37 AM
 
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She lost because she is a looser. She ran on identity politics without an economic message and no vision for the future. She thought the same old chit would work not realizing people were sick of it.
You nailed it. It was the economy.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Pretty stupid!

NOW, the libs try to believe that she didn't want it anyway!
The things people come up with to make themselves feel better & appear less ignorant amaze me .
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Hillary was anointed by the democratic national party and then was so far ahead in the polls but somehow lost the election.

It seems almost deliberate how Hillary threw the election, has anyone thought Hillary tried losing the election to keep her foundation and create chaos in the country?
OMG another theory to help a big time loser who was not expected to loose. Now it is deliberately losing....

Trump just won because he run a better campaign and crooked Hillary wasn't trusted by many and that is why the map turned RED!
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