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Old 11-11-2016, 12:55 AM
 
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I remember posts saying the GOP needed to embrace gay marriage in order to ever win again. Meanwhile, the supreme court ruled in favor of same sex marriage nationwide. Suddenly, this became a non-issue, which may have actually HELPED the Republicans with those who were on the fence because of gay marriage. There was no way the ruling would be reversed, so that became a non-issue with voting.

I always thought gay marriage being the deciding factor for voting for someone to be dumb, but the ruling may have actually helped Republicans in the end. If it wasn't legal in every state in 2016, it would have been a big attack the liberals used against electing a GOP president.

Ironic huh?
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Old 11-11-2016, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I agree, 100% with this analysis. With the Supreme Court's ruling, same sex marriage became a non-issue for swing voters who may have otherwise shunned the GOP due to its stance on this issue.
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Old 11-11-2016, 01:43 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I remember posts saying the GOP needed to embrace gay marriage in order to ever win again. Meanwhile, the supreme court ruled in favor of same sex marriage nationwide. Suddenly, this became a non-issue, which may have actually HELPED the Republicans with those who were on the fence because of gay marriage. There was no way the ruling would be reversed, so that became a non-issue with voting.

I always thought gay marriage being the deciding factor for voting for someone to be dumb, but the ruling may have actually helped Republicans in the end. If it wasn't legal in every state in 2016, it would have been a big attack the liberals used against electing a GOP president.

Ironic huh?
The only way that argument works is if you believe those people flat out stayed home. And even then, it is still a spotty theory at best.
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Old 11-11-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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The only way that argument works is if you believe those people flat out stayed home. And even then, it is still a spotty theory at best.
They didn't all stay home and they didn't all vote for Hillary. My ex-partner and his husband (came here from Mexico) both voted for Trump. The tipping point for them voting for Trump had to do jobs and healthcare, not anything related to gay-marriage.

At the end of the day, Americans just need to suck it up and work together. Society has trained its children to believe that everyone needs to win and there should be no losers and that is just not reality. We do not always get what we want or expect. Now, people are up in arms and in panic mode because they do not know how to relate to losing.

I also believe there should be more focus on highlighting individual merits rather than boxing people into generalized labels and groups because at the end of the day, people are still individuals. I came out of the closet back in '91 and didn't have the support that many gay people have now. Yet, I was able to cultivate relationships with people who I may not have had much in common with. This is not because I forced my beliefs on others or lived my life through a manufactured stereotype, but because we were able to educate each other and have constructive dialog that forged great bonds and built respect.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton was never any friend to Gays & Lesbians. She supported DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, and clearly stated, when she was running for US Senator that she was against Gay marriage.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:07 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton was never any friend to Gays & Lesbians. She supported DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, and clearly stated, when she was running for US Senator that she was against Gay marriage.
Correct!! Hillary wanting to bring thousands of Muslims into our country validates that fact because the Muslim religion dictates that being homosexual is a sin and is a death sentence.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Hillary Clinton was never any friend to Gays & Lesbians. She supported DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, and clearly stated, when she was running for US Senator that she was against Gay marriage.
She was definitely a flip-flopper.
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