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Old 11-15-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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Retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) filed legislation Tuesday to abolish the Electoral College in light of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote but still losing the election.


Her bill calls for an amendment to the Constitution that would end the Electoral College system. Should such a thing pass, the amendment would only take effect if ratified by three-fourths of the states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress.

Clinton leads President-elect Donald Trump by nearly 800,000 votes nationally with a final count still pending, but Trump won the most electors in the electoral college system that is how the country actually picks it's president.

Boxer was a vocal advocate for Clinton throughout the campaign and had said that electing the first female president was on her to-do list before leaving the Senate in January.

This is just the fourth time in U.S. history that a nominee has won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College and thus the presidency. The most recent was Al Gore's Electoral College loss to George W. Bush in 2000.

"In my lifetime, I have seen two elections where the winner of the general election did not win the popular vote," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

Boxer has co-sponsored legislation to repeal the Electoral College before, none of the bills have been considered.
California Sen. Barbara Boxer files long shot bill to scrap the Electoral College system - LA Times

This won't even go to vote, but hey why not



I mean, even if the Electoral College was abolished tomorrow, it still wouldn't make Hillary president. Because the 2016 election was run on the basis of getting electoral votes.

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Old 11-15-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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If someone would actually present a system that would not mean large population centers (i.e. California) making decisions for the rest of the country, I'd certainly be willing to listen. But until then, the rest of the country is NOT California and New York and really doesn't want those two states making decisions for the rest of us.
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Democrats are going shoot themselves in the foot with this one. They really do go into an election with an advantage in the electoral college.
Watch electoral college gets scrapped and in 2020 the Republicans win popular vote and the democrats would have won with electoral college ha ha
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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If someone would actually present a system that would not mean large population centers (i.e. California) making decisions for the rest of the country, I'd certainly be willing to listen. But until then, the rest of the country is NOT California and New York and really doesn't want those two states making decisions for the rest of us.
What if electoral votes are done by county. So if say Florida had 29, the winner of the state would not get all. It would be broken up by county?
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:56 PM
 
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Barbara Boxer?

An Ass who is as bought & paid for as Hillary Clinton.
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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I'm sure she has a much more intelligent alternative. Do tell !
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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It's funny that some "states' rights" advocates who defend the Confederacy are aghast when a state decides the national government is no longer working in their best interest, isn't it?
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Barbara Boxer?

An Ass who is as bought & paid for as Hillary Clinton.
And from California on top of it. LOL.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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I guess I rather like the Electoral System. It does make presidential candidates campaign in some of the smaller states. Heck, if we went by pure popular vote, each presidential candidate would flock to California, New York, Florida and (yikes!) Texas.


However, I bet the people of Iowa would be glad to be left alone.


First Al Gore, now Hillary Rodham Clinton. No wonder that the Democrats feel put upon. However, I say, leave it be.


I did like the idea of creating some new electoral votes (at large) to be awarded to the winner of the popular vote. I had suggested five such votes, but I saw today that some other politician had beat me to the punch days ago, and he suggested 29 at large votes, which seems a bit excessive.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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The democrats were bragging about how the EC favors the democrats before the election. Now that they lost they want to take their ball and go home. They're the spoiled brats that have never been told no.
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