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UPDATE -- CLINTON POPULAR VOTE MARGIN EXCEEDS 2.2 MILLION
Popular vote count Nov. 26 1300 PST
Clinton.... 64,637,503... 48.2%
Trump...... 62,409,389... 46.5% <<< Margin has increased to 1.7%
Clinton lead = 2,228,114 [1.7%] (source: Cook Political Report)
Herr Trump falls even further behind. The margin is now approaching 2%. Wow. The popular vote and electoral college are really out of whack with one another.
Trying to 'legitimize' trump's presidency and create a rallying point to consolidate wayward dems and dem socialists. nothing like a war to get people together to fight a common enemy. Media support is required.
It would be a disservice to real democrats to keep the democrat name for the party.
Hillary decried the idea of a recount.
Interesting if you google 'hillary decries trump rigged election' hillary decries rigged election' and the first two pages just list Trump calling the election rigged....no mention of hillary's now famous speech where she recoiled at the thought of a recount or rigged election.
You'd have to search creatively to find that video of hillary recoiling at the thought elections are rigged and trump is horrible for saying it.
Senators, governors, congressmen, etc are all elected by popular vote. So why not the president? The electoral college is a sham and voter suppression for both democrats and republicans.
Trump was elected president by the electoral college. The majority of the people in this country did not want Donald Trump as president. That is a fact that will never be able to be disputed as evidenced by the popular vote.
No they wouldn't. Didn't you listen to your lord and savior Donald Trump. He said he would have been able to pick up millions more votes if he targeted New York and California...
No they wouldn't. Didn't you listen to your lord and savior Donald Trump. He said he would have been able to pick up millions more votes if he targeted New York and California...
Your twisted liberal mind may have gotten something right for once, Both candidates ran there campaigns to win the EC if they had run for the PV there campaigns would have been very different, and Trump would most likely still won.
I wouldn't say that's necessarily quite the reason why. The actual reason is that the founders had a profound and reasoned fear of democracy. They felt allowing popular vote would lead to factions of people, in a modern context sometimes called "they tyranny of the majority" that would overwhelm and take the rights of other citizens. The term "United States" existed when the Declaration of Independence was written and that name stuck. The Article of Confederation was the first government "constitution" and it had no president. There was the president of congress, elected every year, who was in no way similar to the President of the constitution. So I don't think the name "United States" has anything to do with what you're saying.
That said, the popular vote still does not matter.
we have that anyways- those electoral are a faction-- --get rid of it and join the world- we are how many million of voters? not longer 3 cats against the Brits-
This is the United States because it is the states that are granted the authority to appoint a leader, and thus the electoral college gives a voice to each state.
Cut it out with this popular vote junk. It's happened before and it never mattered.
That pretty much sums it up. I learned this in grade school and understood it then. The popular vote is just a talking point but anyone with a functioning brain knows this is a Republic of States and States have rights.
Think about it, without the Electoral College, would there even be a United States? How crazy would South Dakota and North Dakota be to want to stay as part of this association when they really have no say in anything?
If the popular vote mattered they would have run different campaigns
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