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Old 11-22-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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So Hillary Clinton did well in counties that are full of Lexus liberals and hipsters. So what? You aren't going to do very well appealing mostly to these people and holding the rest of the country in contempt. If this last election didn't teach you that I don't know what will.

 
Old 11-22-2016, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Mile High
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The more educated the region, the more support Clinton received.


Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump | FiveThirtyEight
I have a PhD. I voted Trump.
 
Old 11-22-2016, 10:43 PM
 
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I am not sure if it was democrats or liberals but they are slightly more educated than the other side.
I guess I understand why: our organizations of higher learning are where the indoctrination starts.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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These are the same people that guaranteed a huge Hillary landslide...their polls cannot be questioned

Even if this were correct, so.
Those highly educated that developed those polls that said Hillary had "it"! Those educated news media personnel that were sure Hillary had "it". Educated doesn't make one "smart" or give them "commonsense" but I guess that has been obvious, especially here at C-D, when following the posts of Hillary's supporters!

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Increased education is related to higher IQ scores.
Not at all. IQ has nothing to do with increased education. Nothing. IQ also means nothing and like most of those degrees, it doesn't assure you a job that pays well enough to make the payments on your student loan thus the crying over incurring a debt and wanting the government to write it off. A smart person would have chose a field that actually had jobs!

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In my humble opinion... the more common sense a person has, the more they voted against Hillary Clinton. I watched a whole lot of "educated" people wrongly predict a Hillary victory on Nov 8th.
I have noticed that people that choose "higher education" often lack common sense to begin with. The "professional" students in particular. They use the diploma to cover the hole in the wall of their parent's basement where they will reside while trying to pay off their higher education with big box store wages.

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Notice they define "educated" as percentage of people with college degrees? I would like to see the numbers after separating useful degrees (engineering, medical, etc.) from worthless degrees.
Useful degrees? They have jobs and can pay off their student loans and not use food stamps and other public assistance. Useless degrees? The majority, they were crying about going into debt to be something they thought would be a "fun" or "easy" job and want Uncle to "forgive" their stupidity by letting them out of their obligation. We had student loans, my older son had student loans and we paid them off, early!

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I have a PhD. I voted Trump.
It shows you can apply your education and have common sense. "Smart" doesn't come from a degree.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I have a PhD. I voted Trump.
Me too.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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More "education" = more exposure to the mainstream media = being more manipulated by the media. Less "education" = gut feeling, intuition.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Honestly, I wonder how accurate the OP's link actually is. I'm college educated (engineering) and work with a good number of others that are. I honestly can't think of any that are Clinton voters. I suppose if you look at those with what we used to call "basket weaving" degrees, it might be a different story. Engineers and technical people look at and evaluate facts and base decisions on data, not emotions. Hillary...was a lousy choice by every rational measure.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 10:00 PM
 
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Honestly, I wonder how accurate the OP's link actually is. I'm college educated (engineering) and work with a good number of others that are. I honestly can't think of any that are Clinton voters. I suppose if you look at those with what we used to call "basket weaving" degrees, it might be a different story. Engineers and technical people look at and evaluate facts and base decisions on data, not emotions. Hillary...was a lousy choice by every rational measure.
Same here. Masters degree in engineering. I have yet to meet an engineer that claimed to vote for Hillary. There are studies that show that people with STEM degrees tend to be more conservative. And it's no secret that the simple-minded (liberals) are getting millions of worthless degrees (liberal arts, poetry, chicano-studies, communications, etc.). And then they claim to be more "educated". What a joke.
 
Old 11-24-2016, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Ok--I'll get bashed for being elitist, but what was Trump's big promise besides 'Da Wall'?

High wage unskilled or semi-skilled labor jobs--like they 'used' to have (when unions ruled). A fantasy, of course. It's not going to happen. Technology has taken over manufacturing and even the Wizard of Trump cannot do anything to change that. Some retraining is necessary and some new industries are necessary. Going back into the mines is definitely not the answer. Other countries are passing us by with education and progress.

Either people train for new jobs or things will not change for them. Unions will not be making a comeback. Corporate greed is not going away. The corporate welfare infrastructure plan is not a long-term plan. The defense industry will not save the workers--we just don't need all the stuff we built during the Cold War. Obama tried to get infrastructure projects through and even subsidized it with federal money. Jerks like Florida's very own Rick Scott turned it down. Some infrastructure spending might pass now that the GOP isn't trying to obstruct--we'll see. Maybe Trump will pull an FDR.
Great so what industries should they retrain for? What is left after all the regulations and stomping of rights that have happened over the last 24 years?
 
Old 11-25-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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The more educated the region, the more support Clinton received.


Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump | FiveThirtyEight
Maybe "loan forgiveness" was the attraction in that case as many of those "more educated" can't find a job in their field and end up needing public assistance and/or working big box stores to put food on the table. They created an obligation and like any other contract need to be held liable.
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