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View Poll Results: Did Hillary Clinton have anything to do with Stein's Fund for Recount? Multiple Choice Poll
Sure. "and" She secretly donated to the fund 54 31.40%
Sure she did. Still being Crooked-Hillary 81 47.09%
No Way! 24 13.95%
The Russians had something to do with it. 2 1.16%
The election was hacked for sure, right? 4 2.33%
The Donaters to Stein's fund are about to get ripped off $$$$ Burned! 39 22.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 172. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-08-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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Looks as if all the fraud was found in Democrat areas. Where a vote counts as 6 votes.

BREAKING Michigan Recount Uncovers Serious Voter Fraud in Detroit- VOTES COUNTED UP TO 6 TIMES
Have you never heard of Clinton's Blue firewall? Voter fraud was her real firewall. Of course, those of us familiar with elections and how they tend to go, already knew that.

 
Old 12-08-2016, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Not really sure what happened to Day 6, but here's the tally through the end of day 7 of the Wisconsin recount:

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The Commission reported these tallies on December 7:

Trump/Pence are up 410 votes
Clinton/Kaine are up 492 votes
Castle/Bradley are up 12 votes
Johnson/Weld are up 46 vote
Stein/Baraka are up 60 votes
Moorehead/Lilly are up 9 votes
De la Fuente/Steinberg are up 7 votes.


Trump/Pence originally led Clinton/Kaine by 22,177.

“So far, not including the City of Milwaukee, Clinton/Kaine have gained 82 more votes than Trump/Pence, but still trail,” the Commission said ...

The Commission now says the state is on track to make its December 13 deadline to have Wisconsin’s electoral votes count.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/wiscon...ules-michigan/
http://elections.wi.gov/elections-vo...6-presidential

I believe that represents the tally for the entire recount effort. As the website states so accurately, a net increase of 82 votes for Hillary/Kaine has not managed to put them in the lead.

So it's down to the City of Milwaukee to come up with the remaining 22,093 votes needed to give Wisconsin to Hillary.

With December 13th rapidly approaching, I don't think MI and PA will be done with a full recount in time. This may result in the outcome many suspected Stein and Clinton wanted all along: The nullification of the vote of MI and PA, whilst WI looks like they're going to beat the deadline and frustrate those plans. I'm not sure the Green Party has much of a future if they succeed in silencing the electoral voices of two entire states. The Democrats' participation -- even though they're trying to keep it all at arm's length -- is going to hurt them as well. Now would be a good time for the Dems to back off and denounce the whole business to mitigate the damage.
 
Old 12-08-2016, 06:30 AM
 
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Not really sure what happened to Day 6, but here's the tally through the end of day 7 of the Wisconsin recount:


Wisconsin Recount Results Day 7: Trump Leads, 70% Done | Heavy.com
2016 Presidential Recount | Wisconsin Elections Commission

I believe that represents the tally for the entire recount effort. As the website states so accurately, a net increase of 82 votes for Hillary/Kaine has not managed to put them in the lead.

So it's down to the City of Milwaukee to come up with the remaining 22,093 votes needed to give Wisconsin to Hillary.

With December 13th rapidly approaching, I don't think MI and PA will be done with a full recount in time. This may result in the outcome many suspected Stein and Clinton wanted all along: The nullification of the vote of MI and PA, whilst WI looks like they're going to beat the deadline and frustrate those plans. I'm not sure the Green Party has much of a future if they succeed in silencing the electoral voices of two entire states. The Democrats' participation -- even though they're trying to keep it all at arm's length -- is going to hurt them as well. Now would be a good time for the Dems to back off and denounce the whole business to mitigate the damage.
Michigan is done, there will be no recount... Wisconsin is not going to change anything.... it was over before it even started...
 
Old 12-08-2016, 06:48 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Michigan is done, there will be no recount... Wisconsin is not going to change anything.... it was over before it even started...
Hopefully Pennsylvania will be halted soon.
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Enough is enough. Looks like this pathetic attempt has ended. It appeared from the beginning to only be a way for Jill Stein to raise some funds to pay off campaign debts. She could learn a thing or two from Trump on that - wonderful offers on beautiful items coming out of the campaign for "memorabilia" - Trump/Pence.
 
Old 12-08-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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Here's a Christmas gift idea for that tech savvy snowflake millennial in your family who can't handle the loss of their beloved Hillary:

Play-Doh TOUCH Shape to Life Studio - Apple

Yes, we can thank Apple for coming up with Play-Doh touch.
 
Old 12-08-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Michigan is done, there will be no recount... Wisconsin is not going to change anything.... it was over before it even started...
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Hopefully Pennsylvania will be halted soon.
If things are still tied up in the courts past the Dec 13th deadline, will MI and PA be allowed to send their electors?
 
Old 12-08-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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If things are still tied up in the courts past the Dec 13th deadline, will MI and PA be allowed to send their electors?
If they are empanelled expect a Federal lawsuit from the Clinton campaign. If they're not empanelled expect the same from Trump's end.
 
Old 12-08-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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If they are empanelled expect a Federal lawsuit from the Clinton campaign. If they're not empanelled expect the same from Trump's end.
Yeah this is why recounts suck. It's being used as a way to interrupt the election process, prolong the agony and sabotage the outcome. I take no issue with wanting to doublecheck the results, but every presidential recount we've ever seen is loaded with dirty tricks and hidden agendas.

Unwittingly or intentionally, Jill Stein is playing proxy for Hillary Clinton. I think that Clinton is going to continue to let Jill Stein play proxy if she can help it. The instant that Clinton leads the charge, she's playing the role of the sore loser and hurting the image of the Democrats more directly. Presently, all pending court cases are in Jill Stein's name, which may complicate matters if her legal team wants to jump in.
 
Old 12-08-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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GOP senators seek probe of Wayne County election issues

At Wayne County’s recount Tuesday, election workers opened a Detroit precinct’s ballot box that was suppose to contain 306 ballots but only had 50 ballots, according to an election observer for President-elect Donald Trump.

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“We’re seeing many precincts around the state deemed unrecountable because election workers failed to comply with longstanding Michigan ballot security measures,” Stein attorney Mark Brewer told the Board of State Canvassers on Wednesday. “For the first time in a long time, the voters of this state are being allowed to see inside the election machinery.”

The Detroit News first reported Monday that 59 percent precincts in Detroit could be disqualified from the recount because the number of ballots in secured boxes doesn’t match the number of ballots in the poll book.

For Wayne County, about 36 percent of precincts had mismatched numbers, according to the county canvassing board’s post-election report.


It's discouraging that we can't have an election without these problems.
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