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Old 12-02-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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Why do you hate blue collar Trump supporters so much? It almost reads like a complex. I came from a blue collar union railroad worker family that was always split Democrat and GOP. Before this election I would always lean Democrat. Now that Trump has pushed the protectionism and economic populist that a tiny wing of the GOP to the front, I think many people have found a home in the GOP. What's wrong with that. For many years we only had two pro-globalization candidates.


Why are you making it seem as though the only moral way to vote is pro-globalization?
Oh I dunno, it could be that polls find that 68% of Trump supporters want to rob Iraq of it's oil wealth, 30% of Republicans want to outlaw Islam, Steve Bannon is a white nationalist, Donald Trump has repeatedly made racist claims and overtures, is friends with Roger Stone who calls a CNN anchor a "fat negro", distrusts a judge purely because he's Mexican, goes on ****ing Infowars.com to talk with Alex Jones, refuses to rent to non-white people in his apartment complex, had a senior political aide for years who overtly called black people ******s.

Maybe has something to do with it.

 
Old 12-02-2016, 02:46 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-a...utput-america/



Let's split the country into two. Clintonland gets that 64% of GDP, and Trumpland gets the 36%.

Fair?

Considering that some of the right have been calling CA to secede from the union while being rank #1 highest GSP by a large margin, this is one topic that the right and left might just find agreement on.

 
Old 12-02-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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or- once again the middle and working class voting against their own economic self interests.....
So, people with millions of dollars that would have paid far more in taxes that voted for Hillary are voting for their self-interest?
 
Old 12-02-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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There is so much spinning in this thread, I am dizzy!
 
Old 12-02-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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So, people with millions of dollars that would have paid far more in taxes that voted for Hillary are voting for their self-interest?
No- but if you have millions of dollars you can afford to pay a bit more in taxes and still be rich....the guy making 35K a year who votes trump who sees his taxes flat or even go up while the guy who owns his company gets a huge cut is the one that will feel it....
 
Old 12-02-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Let's split the country into two. Clintonland gets that 64% of GDP, and Trumpland gets the 36%.

Fair?
It does not matter.

Rich people's votes do not count more than poor people's votes, in America.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Oh I dunno, it could be that polls find that 68% of Trump supporters want to rob Iraq of it's oil wealth, 30% of Republicans want to outlaw Islam, Steve Bannon is a white nationalist, Donald Trump has repeatedly made racist claims and overtures, is friends with Roger Stone who calls a CNN anchor a "fat negro", distrusts a judge purely because he's Mexican, goes on ****ing Infowars.com to talk with Alex Jones, refuses to rent to non-white people in his apartment complex, had a senior political aide for years who overtly called black people ******s.

Maybe has something to do with it.
Trump won African Americans and Latinos than any other GOP candidate in recent years. I mean the claim that Bannon is a white nationalist is just hearsay. The claim to Trump being racist the same and due to liberals thinking they can detect dog-whistles or what not. Alex Jones isn't racist, just nutty. I mean your fixation with race is wild, almost a complex.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Oh I dunno, it could be that polls find that 68% of Trump supporters want to rob Iraq of it's oil wealth, 30% of Republicans want to outlaw Islam, Steve Bannon is a white nationalist, Donald Trump has repeatedly made racist claims and overtures, is friends with Roger Stone who calls a CNN anchor a "fat negro", distrusts a judge purely because he's Mexican, goes on ****ing Infowars.com to talk with Alex Jones, refuses to rent to non-white people in his apartment complex, had a senior political aide for years who overtly called black people ******s.

Maybe has something to do with it.
That Mexican judge is the racist. He belongs to La Raza.. The Race.. The Mexican judge puts his Mexican heritage before his American citizenship and I consider that racist.

The Muslims would all be welcomed if they didn't have a long history of blowing up people. running over people with large trucks, stabbing people, gunning down people , and chopping heads off if you don't convert to being a Muslim. They attack people at colleges, Christmas parties, malls, social gatherings, restaurants, streets, at work places, in military offices and anywhere they choose.

Jayz calls blacks Ni**ers, women wh*res, so who is the racist and puts down women? The left of course.. they do it for fun and entertainment. They have no problem with that. Get real!
 
Old 12-02-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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Jayz calls blacks Ni**ers, women wh*res, so who is the racist and puts down women? The left of course.. they do it for fun and entertainment. They have no problem with that. Get real!
I'd like a president that exceeds the bar and expectations set by rappers by a large margin.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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No- but if you have millions of dollars you can afford to pay a bit more in taxes and still be rich....the guy making 35K a year who votes trump who sees his taxes flat or even go up while the guy who owns his company gets a huge cut is the one that will feel it....
But how is it in their self interest financially to vote for Clinton? You're explaining how they wouldn't necessarily be hurt badly by it.. but, your argument was that people who voted for Trump did so against their own self interests.. How would a celebrity voting for Clinton who promised to raise taxes on them not be voting against their self interest?

Sticking my hand in a garbage disposal isn't in my best interest. I have another hand, so it wouldn't affect me as much as someone who previously had a tragic cherry-bomb accident, but i'm still sticking my hand in a g-d garbage disposal.
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