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Old 12-05-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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The top 3 democratic positions are averaging 76 years old. How is the entire democratic leadership so old and refusing to allow younger leaders the ability to lead?

Stale Flakes: Average Age of House Democratic Leadership is 76

Pelosi just get reelected so democratic leadership wants old leaders but what about the democrat base? Is their a future with some youth hope in the democratic party?
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: WY
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The top 3 democratic positions are averaging 76 years old. How is the entire democratic leadership so old and refusing to allow younger leaders the ability to lead?

Stale Flakes: Average Age of House Democratic Leadership is 76

Pelosi just get reelected so democratic leadership wants old leaders but what about the democrat base? Is their a future with some youth hope in the democratic party?
It'll take some time. Everyone in the party is still shell shocked from the election and all the big donors are still hurting from all the money they just flushed down the toilet. The party needs a good deal of introspection and soul searching to try and figure out how they got it all so wrong. Right now they're still finger pointing, excuse making, lashing out and crying. Maybe they'll be able to get their act together - maybe they won't. I don't know at this stage how well they'll be able to regroup or how long it will take.

If they hire some good people who are able to take a step back from all the hurt feelings and anger, who can clearly evaluate what went so wrong in this election cycle (and what has been going wrong since the 2010 mid terms), who can come up with a game plan to rebuild the party, and whose recommendations will be taken to heart and implemented, they may have a shot. But the entire party has become so disassociated from middle America and is so corrupt and toxic, it may take a long time.

If Trump royally screws up, that will help as well. Which is possible. But right now the Democrat party is a hot mess, with a spinning compass needle, no leadership, little support among American citizens, little cash, no message, and no ability to understand what drove Americans away. And that's not a good thing. I want strong parties with strong messages and strong leaders. Pelosi? Huge mistake.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Democrats have made the mistake of ignoring local politics, thinking it would take care of itself either by demographics or some sort of local networking. A number of "blue" states have "red" governors and legislatures. That means the GOP gets to redraw district lines and suppress the impact of Democratic voters by moving them into GOP dominated districts (AKA Gerrymandering). Young Democrats running for congress in a Gerrymandered GOP district won't win even in a "blue" state. Eric Holder is chairing a group to look at redistricting issues but that is only a symptom of the problem -- after the fact litigation. We need to wade into local politics to recruit and support bright new leaders who are not single-issue zealots like most of the GOP legislators and members of congress.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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Democrats have made the mistake of ignoring local politics, thinking it would take care of itself either by demographics or some sort of local networking. A number of "blue" states have "red" governors and legislatures. That means the GOP gets to redraw district lines and suppress the impact of Democratic voters by moving them into GOP dominated districts (AKA Gerrymandering). Young Democrats running for congress in a Gerrymandered GOP district won't win even in a "blue" state. Eric Holder is chairing a group to look at redistricting issues but that is only a symptom of the problem -- after the fact litigation. We need to wade into local politics to recruit and support bright new leaders who are not single-issue zealots like most of the GOP legislators and members of congress.
The civil rights act requires that people of certain ethnicities get packed into certain districts, called majority minority districts so minorities have elected representatives in Washington. This is gerrymandering and is mandated by law.

Do you want to repeal the voting rights act?
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The top 3 democratic positions are averaging 76 years old. How is the entire democratic leadership so old and refusing to allow younger leaders the ability to lead?

Stale Flakes: Average Age of House Democratic Leadership is 76

Pelosi just get reelected so democratic leadership wants old leaders but what about the democrat base? Is their a future with some youth hope in the democratic party?
It appears right now the younger elected candidates are Republicans with rare exception/ Why, I do not have a clue,, but just look at those who were seriously running for President? Yes, we elected a 70 year old man, but many of those who ran against him were younger men and many recently elected representatives are younger. Clintons only real opponent was older than she is
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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They will never get younger because the refuse to do so. Big Nancy said they have no desire or need to change directions. That phony must be addicted to the limelight, why else would she want to run again at her age/ sick puppy.
Now we on the side of the good guys have some housekeeping to do too. For starters, McCain must go, he was a war hero forty years ago, now he is just an out of touch, old man.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:52 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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They will never get younger because the refuse to do so. Big Nancy said they have no desire or need to change directions. That phony must be addicted to the limelight, why else would she want to run again at her age/ sick puppy.
Now we on the side of the good guys have some housekeeping to do too. For starters, McCain must go, he was a war hero forty years ago, now he is just an out of touch, old man.
Arizona keeps electing the man. It's bad when millions of out of state dollars tries influencing local elections. Either side - not good. As much as everyone wanted harry Reid gone, Nevada had their chances for many decades to throw the bum out.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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What ?

They have Sanders, he dont look a day over 74
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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It appears right now the younger elected candidates are Republicans with rare exception/ Why, I do not have a clue,, but just look at those who were seriously running for President? Yes, we elected a 70 year old man, but many of those who ran against him were younger men and many recently elected representatives are younger. Clintons only real opponent was older than she is

That is because Hillary Clinton has been (in reality) running for President for 8 years, and already had a team and donor base in place long before 2016.

It isnt a lack of will, but rather looking at the facts of the landscape. Hillary Clinton running was no different thant Al Gore doing so as VP.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The civil rights act requires that people of certain ethnicities get packed into certain districts, called majority minority districts so minorities have elected representatives in Washington. This is gerrymandering and is mandated by law.

Do you want to repeal the voting rights act?
The point of the CRA and VRA is so that minorities who usually live in the same areas of cities,counties and states(look at the black belt) have representation. So its isnt packing them, or rather it isnt meant to. The argument is actually to not split them between 2 or more districts.

We can disagree on whether or not that is gerrymandering, but it isnt the same affect as what you were arguing.

Packing is more or less this




Taking black people from multiple cities and stuffing them into districts

The picture below is just a majority black district and what the VRA actually wanted.

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