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Old 01-06-2017, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Whoever leaked those emails was simply doing the job that the American media didn't want to do.

Yeah !!! We love the Russians ! They are our friends, and Putin is very very smart (Bigly smart). We are going to be one big, happy family after Jan 20. I bet Trump is going to decorate the guest room at the WH, just for V.

While we will never know if his hacking had any true impact on the election, we do know they tried. They were specifically going after damaging information aimed at Hillary. You didn't see their boytoy Assange putting out any crap about Trump. Putin wanted Trump to win for a lot of reasons, but primarily because he knows Trump is inexperienced, not too bright, and will be like a little lamb, lead to the slaughter. Trump is a foreign enemies dream come true.

 
Old 01-06-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Russia leaked the emails. If they were doing the job that the American media didn't want to do, they would have also leaked the emails of the Republican National Committee, let's be fair here!
Or they did the job like our press does it. They picked and chose what they wanted us to know. The difference is that the DNC and Hillary were the authors of those emails that supposedly damned them. In other words the DNC and Hillary are guilty of what they said.
The deciding factor if it even was. Wasn't Russians hacked emails. It was what the emails contained... The left should be taking a hard look at their leadership and asking themselves who the bad guys are in the story.
What we all got to see is how the 2 parties really operate behind the scenes.... The man behind the curtain if you will.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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How did the Russians give the election to Trump?

They made sure that Mr. Trump ran against Mrs. Clinton.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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Hillary and all her flaws gave trump the election - had nothing to do with Russia.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 08:49 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Hillary and all her flaws gave trump the election - had nothing to do with Russia.
Agreed. By the time the emails came out the majority of voters had already made up their minds. Those emails simply confirmed to those voting for Trump that they were right to not vote Clinton. I knew I would never vote for Hillary before the primaries were over. It would have taken a gun to my head to vote for Hillary. Write in is always an acceptable alternative.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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Because McDonalds sucks. Burger King is much better.
I'm sorry McDonald fries are far superior to Burger King's in every possible way. With burgers....think that up to the individual.

Oh as a side note. Russian influenced absolutely jack.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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We know about the phishing and the DNC communication because that is what was released.

How do we know that Trump was not hacked? Do you want all of your e-mails searched for damning content?

All we know is what they told us. We have no way of knowing the information that was obtained. Is Trump's phone secure?

If the USA department of Homeland Security cannot even keep their own employment files secure, who can?

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Old 01-06-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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These are the issues Clinton supporters are deliberately deflecting from.

First, there were Hillary's emails. They blamed Comey, and Republicans for the investigation, and for Comey's last minute announcement that thousands more were found on a laptop shared by Anthony Weiner, and Huma Abedin. They never once addressed the fact that State department business should never have found it's way to her personal server, or any of the connected devices. They never explained how or why classified data found it's way outside of a classified government network, in direct violation of Federal law. So their rationalization, is that Clinton broke the law, and State Department policy, it is the fault of Republicans, and Comey for catching her, and trying to hold her accountable.

Second, there were the Podesta emails. We've heard all about the nefarious Russian hackers that brought these emails to light via Wikileaks. What we haven't heard is any attempt to explain, or address the content of those emails. The Podesta emails established the DNC rigging the primary process to throw the nomination to Clinton. They proved deliberate collusion between the media and the Clinton campaign in the form of receiving debate questions ahead of time, and a media that quite happy to submit print/online pieces to the Clinton campaign for edits. For Clinton supporters, it isn't the fault of Democrats they willfully tampered with the primary process, or accepted help from a fawning media, it's that some nefarious agent found out, and leaked the information to the public.

Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” Barrack Obama, January 23, 2009.

Time for the party of Obama to accept the same has happened to them.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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These are the issues Clinton supporters are deliberately deflecting from.

First, there were Hillary's emails. They blamed Comey, and Republicans for the investigation, and for Comey's last minute announcement that thousands more were found on a laptop shared by Anthony Weiner, and Huma Abedin. They never once addressed the fact that State department business should never have found it's way to her personal server, or any of the connected devices. They never explained how or why classified data found it's way outside of a classified government network, in direct violation of Federal law. So their rationalization, is that Clinton broke the law, and State Department policy, it is the fault of Republicans, and Comey for catching her, and trying to hold her accountable.

Second, there were the Podesta emails. We've heard all about the nefarious Russian hackers that brought these emails to light via Wikileaks. What we haven't heard is any attempt to explain, or address the content of those emails. The Podesta emails established the DNC rigging the primary process to throw the nomination to Clinton. They proved deliberate collusion between the media and the Clinton campaign in the form of receiving debate questions ahead of time, and a media that quite happy to submit print/online pieces to the Clinton campaign for edits. For Clinton supporters, it isn't the fault of Democrats they willfully tampered with the primary process, or accepted help from a fawning media, it's that some nefarious agent found out, and leaked the information to the public.

Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” Barrack Obama, January 23, 2009.

Time for the party of Obama to accept the same has happened to them.
I have not heard one person say that Trump is not President.


It's unfortunate that he is; but he is.


What I WOULD like to hear is Trump come out to condemn Russia's involvement in our process AND assure us that Putin made a mistake because Trump will not roll over for him.


That is what he should do ~ to put this issue to rest. That would pretty much shut up everyone.


BUT ~ Trump is too much of a crying baby to do it.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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These are the issues Clinton supporters are deliberately deflecting from.

First, there were Hillary's emails. They blamed Comey, and Republicans for the investigation, and for Comey's last minute announcement that thousands more were found on a laptop shared by Anthony Weiner, and Huma Abedin. They never once addressed the fact that State department business should never have found it's way to her personal server, or any of the connected devices. They never explained how or why classified data found it's way outside of a classified government network, in direct violation of Federal law. So their rationalization, is that Clinton broke the law, and State Department policy, it is the fault of Republicans, and Comey for catching her, and trying to hold her accountable.

Second, there were the Podesta emails. We've heard all about the nefarious Russian hackers that brought these emails to light via Wikileaks. What we haven't heard is any attempt to explain, or address the content of those emails. The Podesta emails established the DNC rigging the primary process to throw the nomination to Clinton. They proved deliberate collusion between the media and the Clinton campaign in the form of receiving debate questions ahead of time, and a media that quite happy to submit print/online pieces to the Clinton campaign for edits. For Clinton supporters, it isn't the fault of Democrats they willfully tampered with the primary process, or accepted help from a fawning media, it's that some nefarious agent found out, and leaked the information to the public.

Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” Barrack Obama, January 23, 2009.

Time for the party of Obama to accept the same has happened to them.
No sane person would deny the content of any of the released email. Or the mendacity of the writers of those emails.

For those who say the election results were not changed, let's have all the content of all emails of all candidates and parties, starting with the primaries. Then we will know, for sure, what really happened.

FWIW, am no fan of Billary and haven't believed a word the CIA said since they tried to bankrupt Chile by putting out the story that their grapes were contaminated. And, the residue from J. Edgar never left the FBI.
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