Let us not forget that Obama is a member of the CFR

[daminos]

"Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, (or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected."
- James MacGregor Burns, Council on Foreign Relations member, 1984

"The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966

[daminos]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

Building a North American Community:

http://www.cfr.org/content/publicati...a_TF_final.pdf

Hey! Thanks for the link. I can tell where your loyalties reside.

Here are some refutations of what you believe in:

Building a North American community, the selling of America

Steven Yates -- Erasing America!

The Murder of America

CFR's solution to illegal immigration

[daminos]

IT'S HAPPENING HERE!

This site is full of great information to help you understand how the United States is being destroyed by organizations like the CFR so that you can fight this tyranny and their traitorous supporters.

[mimimomx3]

Originally Posted by TnHilltopper

Ok, lets suppose it is a fact, then might I ask you to provide said facts as evidence. I should like to see the unequivocal proof that the Council on Foreign Relations was concieved or contrived to bring the United States of America into the fold of a one world government. If as you state this took place a century ago, I must ask myself why on earth did people 100 years ago need to create an organization to bring a then small and relatively insignificant nation into such a diabolical plan? After all, 100 years ago, Europe thought of the United States much the same way that England thought of the original colonies, as basically a mere nuisance.





Well I am curious as to what everything represents, including the CFR. It makes no difference to me if they are attempting to conqueror the world or if they are a group of people who assess how to deal with foreign nations politically and economically. Let truth and falsehood grapple and the chips fall as they may, as I have seen no evidence that suggest that your assertions are correct. This is not to say that they aren't, just that I haven't seen this evidence and would be more than happy to view it if you would provide it.





Ok, then show me the evidence that supports this.




I suggest you review this thread and notice where you have called other members of this forum who disagree with your positions and assertions as being foolish, delusional, uneducated and a plethora of other ad hominen comments that certainly do nothing to help your position.

To be fair, there are MANY posters who have told this poster (and others, especially Ron Paul supporters) to 'put on his tin hat' or run because 'the sky is falling', or go to the 'illuminati room' among many other insulting and condescending comments. There's plenty of name calling to go around....

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by daminos

Hey! Thanks for the link. I can tell where your loyalties reside.

Here are some refutations of what you believe in:

Building a North American community, the selling of America

Steven Yates -- Erasing America!

The Murder of America

CFR's solution to illegal immigration

Yes, my loyalties have been plainly spelled out in my few thousand postings thoughout the P&OC Forums. Feel free to evaluate.

From the links you provided to me, specifically the Murder of America (also, thanks for the international politics view from a professional quilter BTW):

"Over the years I have personally withstood a torrent of abuse and ridicule over my assertion that a small clique of traitorously evil men and women were plotting to bring down the walls of history. Still, I soldiered on, enduring the cruel arrows of ignorant and malicious critics. I refused to play along and keep quiet, and I have done my best to expose their heinous plot to shutdown the fabled American experiment in freedom and self-government.

Among the evil culprits I fingered over the years were such anti-American globalist groups as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons and the Bilderbergs. All play important roles in the on-going conspiracy. But behind them all is the satanic influence and power of Zionists. Zionists, in fact, are the real, but, so often, unheralded authors of the globalist plot."


Guess this pretty much sums up your position, and why I believe it lacks credibility.

[daminos]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

Yes, my loyalties have been plainly spelled out in my few thousand postings thoughout the P&OC Forums. Feel free to evaluate.

Yeah. Texe Marrs can go over the top with his rantings. There is no need to bring in the Zionists when discussing the North American Union.

That nonetheless doesn't exculpate you and those who believe in the mission of the CFR which is to end the sovereignty of the United States. To subvert our system of laws founded on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That is essentially what the CFR is doing, or has to do, in order to carry out their goals. I know you share their goals and because of that you and I are enemies. So be it.

[TnHilltopper]

Originally Posted by daminos

Looks like I am not the only one who makes ad hominem attacks. I never attacked you personally, why do you attack me personally? Still want to discuss issues or do you want to belabor in the mud?

No, you are in fact an troller, this isn't ad hominem it is a fact that you yourself provided the evidence for. You makes assertions and claims about the nefarious nature of the CFR, which may or may not be true, it matters little to me, but when others disagree with your view, you then go off on them berating them with a never ending stream of indignant personal attacks. (as I have pointed out above) In my view this makes you a troll, because if a few quotes posted on a blog are what constitutes evidence of this all taking place and anyone who disagrees is an "enemy", then I stand by my opinion that you are here for less than discussion and more about berating others.

Originally Posted by mimimomx3

To be fair, there are MANY posters who have told this poster (and others, especially Ron Paul supporters) to 'put on his tin hat' or run because 'the sky is falling', or go to the 'illuminati room' among many other insulting and condescending comments. There's plenty of name calling to go around....

When a posters makes an assertion that within their own links there is content explaining how the the Illuminati or the Bilderburgs, or whomever are taking over the world, then yes, I will tell them to go down the hall to discuss this as this thread was about Barack Obama being a member of the CFR, not the Illuminati or any other conspiracy (as posted in links). If the term Illuminati is insulting or condescending then I suggest people don't post links or make comments on how it is evidence of a global conspiracy to take over the world, you can't have it both ways, it is either legit or its insulting, which is it?

[Gretchen570]

Chuck Baldwin is not a member of the cfr and I am voting for him!!!!

[WinterinAmerica]

Where's my tin foiled hat?