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Old 03-12-2017, 04:37 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I'm saying "stop being a lying POS".



LOL.
But you are arguing something you cant prove(mentality), and as i have stated before, you were flat out wrong about OBama, you believed that he supported something he never did.
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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If the people who turned their backs on the (D)'s cared about this, they wouldn't have turned their backs on them now would they?

Obamacare does not work. If they cared about Obamacare the (D)'s wouldn't have lost the House and Senate over it would they?

As much as you and others want to spin it, people understood that it was nothing more than another way to boost Wall Street. Michigan cares about not having polluted water. (no the (R)'s wont fix that either). Philly wants more than crumbs that fall off the table at the Wall Street feast. The (R)'s won't fix this either BUT their supporters will still turn out to vote.
Obamacare may not work but the Affordable Care Act is more popular today than ever before. Yes, they still hate Obamacare. I can`t imagine why.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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But you are arguing something you cant prove(mentality), and as i have stated before, you were flat out wrong about OBama, you believed that he supported something he never did.
It was impossible to know what Obama supported.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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Obamacare may not work but the Affordable Care Act is more popular today than ever before. Yes, they still hate Obamacare. I can`t imagine why.
No it's not.

More Americans Negative Than Positive About ACA | Gallup
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:30 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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It was impossible to know what Obama supported.
LOL, thats bad argument on your part, same with clinton, but even worse on Obama.

back to the original point.

the ACA didnt hurt Democrats in 2010, geography did more damage than anything else. We were lucky to have the seats we did that conservatives held.
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Old 03-12-2017, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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With gerrymandering being cut down by the courts in several states, it will be interesting to see how things will look in 4-6 years.

Manufacturing still exists and jobs are available, they just require more skill and pay less. What people here want is to make $25-30/hr at a GM plant straight out of high school, and those days are over. It would also help if half the applicants could pass a drug test.
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:16 PM
 
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. We were lucky to have the seats we did that conservatives held.



Democrats in admitting this remind me of:




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Old 03-12-2017, 08:17 PM
 
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the ACA didnt hurt Democrats in 2010, geography did more damage than anything else. .


Baloney. We still had the same 50 states as 2008, same 435 Congressional districts, same 100 Senate seats.
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Old 03-12-2017, 10:47 PM
 
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If the people who turned their backs on the (D)'s cared about this, they wouldn't have turned their backs on them now would they?

Obamacare does not work. If they cared about Obamacare the (D)'s wouldn't have lost the House and Senate over it would they?

As much as you and others want to spin it, people understood that it was nothing more than another way to boost Wall Street. Michigan cares about not having polluted water. (no the (R)'s wont fix that either). Philly wants more than crumbs that fall off the table at the Wall Street feast. The (R)'s won't fix this either BUT their supporters will still turn out to vote.
Trump Promised Unversal Health care, The Rust Belt Believed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8mcN0zweQE

But that was fake, The Rust Belt now knows.
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:10 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Baloney. We still had the same 50 states as 2008, same 435 Congressional districts, same 100 Senate seats.
By that logic, didnt they vote for the ACA ?????
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