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Old 03-13-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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The Clintons past did indeed catch up to the Clintons and the WH was all in for Clinton.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Forget the study, Clinton ran an excellent campaign! She was meticulous in the debates. With Putin and the hacking of the ballots in the swing states, Clinton chances of winning was insurmountable.
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:18 AM
 
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(a) she believed the polls (b) her "deplorables" speech revealed the utter contempt she had for half of all Americans.
half of al americans? she had utter contempt for everyone that wasnt her.
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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So what?. she did what she did and Trump did what he did, she lost he won last year.Are you guys ever going to get over that fact or are we going to forever be having conversations about how supposedly evil crooked and corrupt Clinton was.


Maybe discussions about why he won or why she lost will die down a bit when the left stops trying to push the narrative that the Russians rigged the election.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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Forget the study, Clinton ran an excellent campaign! She was meticulous in the debates. With Putin and the hacking of the ballots in the swing states, Clinton chances of winning was insurmountable.
No
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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Forget the study, Clinton ran an excellent campaign! She was meticulous in the debates. With Putin and the hacking of the ballots in the swing states, Clinton chances of winning was insurmountable.
perhaps you best check the meds you are taking with your doctor, i think you are having severe side effects.

clinton ran a horrible campaign. her only stance was vote for me because trump is a jackass. she failed to campaign in states that mattered, like michigan, wisconsin, ohio, and pennsylvania. had she campaigned in those states, instead of ignoring them, she probably would have won the election, and we would be saying president clinton now instead of president trump.

you can try to blame anyone you want, the russians, the chinese, whomever, but the reality is that clinton was her own worst enemy. she, and her ad campaign, the left wing media, threw everything they could at trump and nothing stuck because the people saw through the rubbish.

i realize that you, and the rest of the left, hate trump. but you have to get over the losing, and you have to realize that your candidate was worse than trump.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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Exactly. Remember how Bill criticized Obamacare? He was right but boy, he was told to get back on message -- don't want to insult the base.
I'm sure the base didn't feel insulted. Heck, the majority of them probably agreed with Bill about Obamacare's flaws. Remember that liberals wanted single payer in the first place. Obama even campaigned on it until he became President; then it was suddenly dropped and never heard of again.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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She had the largest plurality of US voters...period. She would have won comfortably without the damage done by Comey. And the Comey damage was largely they fault of Obama who should have fired Comey after the July fiasco.

No Clinton was not a scintillating candidate. The Democrats could have done much better. But Trump was the worst of the worst and that should have been fatal. And it would have been without the devastation wrought by Comey.

The Right Wing smear campaign worked or Trump would never have had a chance. Again testimony to the value of negativity in the US political sphere.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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She had the largest plurality of US voters...period. She would have won comfortably without the damage done by Comey. And the Comey damage was largely they fault of Obama who should have fired Comey after the July fiasco.

No Clinton was not a scintillating candidate. The Democrats could have done much better. But Trump was the worst of the worst and that should have been fatal. And it would have been without the devastation wrought by Comey.

The Right Wing smear campaign worked or Trump would never have had a chance. Again testimony to the value of negativity in the US political sphere.
once again, blaming someone else for clintons short comings. she lost due to her own issues, and nothing else. comey, the russians, had no effect on the election to speak of.
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Old 03-13-2017, 05:06 PM
 
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once again, blaming someone else for clintons short comings. she lost due to her own issues, and nothing else. comey, the russians, had no effect on the election to speak of.
Your post is more Trumpet nonsense. He won by the skin of his teeth only with the help of last minute admitted garbage from Comey. And she would have overcome that given a couple of weeks.

She was no great candidate. But she was vastly better than her opponent who managed to get through thanks to a last moment sneak attack from a Republican operative running the FBI.

Doubtful Trump could get elected dog catcher and so far he has not shown that level of skill. One has to root for him as he is our President...but gosh how utterly incompetent he appears to be.
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