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Old 03-31-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Yeah, sure,

I would have won if I had run, also.


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Nah, I would have defeated you! I took a poll just 2 minutes ago and it says that I would have defeated you! Nothing matters except what my poll said!

And, also, to the one that "rep'd" me and said Trump was the groper, show me video clips where women and girls looked horrified because he was hanging on them. Words are cheap! The boldness which Biden groped was unspeakable, that he was "entitled". I suspect with his problems with alcohol that he may have had too much to drink. I still say a knee in the right place would have cleared his head!

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Old 04-02-2017, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Would Biden have beaten Trump?
Quite possibly.

But a party's opponent very often decides that party's nominee. If Biden had been the Democratic nominee, odds are Trump may not have gotten so far. First Scott Walker and then Ted Cruz were both presumptive winners for a long time before Trump gained ground; if Walker had not short-circuited so early, he might have been the guy. He sure had the wins and the popularity in the early days.

Cruz had weaker credentials than Walker, but he caught all of the Walker voter's attention and held it throughout the middle of the campaign. His followers stuck with him until there was no chance at all for him, too.

The outcome for Cruz could have been different if Biden had been in the race. The distinctions between those two was very clear, and the tone of both parties' campaigns and primaries could have been much different.

For sure, Biden has always been a strong populist in the northern areas where Trump did the best. Trump would have whooped him in the south, but Cruz was the most popular in the west.

A lot has been said about the final choices, but not as much about the party choices. Clinton was such an elitist she has always left a lot of voters cold to her. That was what killed her in 2008 and in 2016. Obama and Biden both knew how to reach the common man, but Obama had the advantage over Biden in several critical areas in 2008.

Not so in 2016. Biden never bowed to the next-in-line thing at all. He's never liked the Clintons much either, so if he had decided to run, he would have, and he would have run hard. His candidacy would have put the DNC over a barrel, too, so it couldn't be so much in Hillary's pocket. And Bernie would have had a lot harder time getting off the ground if Biden had been in the race.

But all this is conjecture.
Joe did the right thing sticking to his family at that critical time instead of choosing to run. After losing his first wife and a child once, he wasn't about to desert what was left after one of his sons died. His boys meant everything in the world to him. He could have fallen apart on the campaign trail, and he knew it.

And he didn't want any more blows to fall on his surviving family than the one that had just struck one more of them down. The patriarch who is the family rock doesn't fall apart at a time when he's most needed. He had to be there for his people first. That's the way he's always been.
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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LOL. he is correct.

Small detail. It was "Hillarys turn" This is what happens when you push an awful person with no hook. Trump is an awful person but he has a hook.
LOL, yep, they thought it was Hillary's turn. Oh, and they didn't think they needed the white hard working every day American votes. Maybe next time they'll hand more bones to more people.
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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LOL, yep, they thought it was Hillary's turn. Oh, and they didn't think they needed the white hard working every day American votes. Maybe next time they'll hand more bones to more people.
But, but, but, it was "time"! And, I can tell by all of this "vagina" stuff that is still where their train of thought is. Can you imagine Biden coming out for the "penis" vote?
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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But, but, but, it was "time"! And, I can tell by all of this "vagina" stuff that is still where their train of thought is. Can you imagine Biden coming out for the "penis" vote?
Yea, the rhetoric would have been, if you don't vote for Biden you hate men. Whatever identity political rhetoric they'll work at the time.
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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..if..wishes were horses beggars would ride
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Old 04-02-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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But, but, but, it was "time"! And, I can tell by all of this "vagina" stuff that is still where their train of thought is. Can you imagine Biden coming out for the "penis" vote?

Choosing a first is all they care about.
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Old 04-02-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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LOL, yep, they thought it was Hillary's turn. Oh, and they didn't think they needed the white hard working every day American votes. Maybe next time they'll hand more bones to more people.
Yeah that's what gets me about it. Hillary was forced on us since as far back as 2014. She was coronated because it was "her turn." Because the Democrats made that decision, we are now stuck with the most dangerous President we've ever had.
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:15 AM
 
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He could have won. Would I have voted for Joe over Trump? Probably not out of respect for my grandma. She was a spitfire and talked about how much of an idiot he was. I was sitting in her living room when he said something about FDR being on TV with his fireside chats and how she lost it lol! It was not pretty lol!
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Old 04-05-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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I doubt it. In 2008, Biden was not the Democratic nominee for President. I think Obama filled Biden head with laughing gas, causing Biden to think he could have won in 2016.
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