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Old 04-18-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And why do you think that the loyalty of a nation founded upon questioning of authority and power can be bought and sold?
Citizens United.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Hillary only won the popular vote because of California.
California is a freak of nature -- plus they hate America and want to secede.
So their votes don't count in my book.
Then doesnt that mean the vote in Texas doesnt matter ?????
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I agree that the popular votes matters. That's why Hillary is in the White House, because of the popular vote.

Oh wait, no she isn't.
this isnt a white house discussion, this is a discussion on who the people support, Being in the white house doesnt meant he people support you, it means the system we have in place allowed you to be elected.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Most of the money is coming from outside of the state, and whoever wins will be beholden to the golden goose.

I happened to see one of the commercials for the young liberal guy. It was the typical liberal baloney of false narratives, misinterpretations, and lies. Nothing new, really.

Anyone with half a brain could see right through this clown. The only thing sadder is him thinking anyone would believe that crap. He must think the voters there are actually as dumb as he is.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:44 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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And why do you think that the loyalty of a nation founded upon questioning of authority and power can be bought and sold?
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Citizens United.
Goodnight has won this thread.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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Both sides are pouring money into this race. Why do you think the republicans put so much money into the Kansas race. This seat isn't important by itself but because it's Tom Price's seat and Trump narrowly won here it is important to prove a point.
This is a solid Republican seat regardless of Trump's popularity. Once the race is down to two candidates the GOP will win it easily. It is only close now because there are so many candidates running for the GOP.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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Well, neither party is spending my money, so let it go. I guess it is good for that local economy.


I think too much is being made of a special election being held on April 18, 2017. Even if some Democrat won the seat, I doubt it portends much of anything for November 2018. A lot can happen between now and then.


I am rather amused by the opinion people proclaiming that the Georgia district has been "Republican" for 30 years. Yes, it was 'Democrat' prior to that, but to imply that it was 'liberal' before the Republicans took the seat is silly. It was a conservative stronghold prior to that period.


It is akin to Texas having been, for decades, a safe "Democratic" state, until it turned Republican in the late 1970s. It was not that the good people of Texas suddenly moved from being Liberal to Conservative, but, rather, the shift of the two parties.


Hence, Southern Democrats (conservative to the core, including Georgia) had become disaffected with the direction of the Democratic Party (which was decidedly moving 'liberal'), and followed the lead of (if I recall rightly) Texan Senator Phil Gramm, whom resigned his Senate seat as a Democrat, and then ran for his seat again as a Republican, and won (this just before the Reagan Revolution).


Of course, it may be that demographics in Georgia (as well as Texas) are changing. Mr. Trump won 52 percent of the Texas vote, but in 2012 Mr. Romney won 57 percent.


Anyway, the Georgia election today is of minor interest. I am bewildered by the number of Republicans running (11) as well as Democrats (5). I must look to make sure I was not accidentally placed on the ballot. Anyway, no doubt there will be a run-off.
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Old 04-18-2017, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is a solid Republican seat regardless of Trump's popularity. Once the race is down to two candidates the GOP will win it easily. It is only close now because there are so many candidates running for the GOP.
Ossoff has a fairly moderate message, he has not been drawn into the national debate but you are probably right. He needs to get 50% now, but I'm out of the prediction business after the presidential election.
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Old 04-18-2017, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Goodnight has won this thread.
Yep.
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Old 04-18-2017, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Austin
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It's ironic that the democrats tout that President Trump is not as popular with democrats but then why spend millions just for a single House seat?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-...91122545797276

Panic? It's Georgia...
Panic and cluelessness, in my opinion.

I don't see how the Democrats can win elections anywhere in the country, outside of the handful of Progressive states, going forward when the Democrats are becoming an increasingly far leftist party which espouses Sanders' socialism, Ellis' identity politics, and ignores if not outright disdains its former base, the white, working class.

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