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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by paperhouse
WooHoo! Free Health Care!
I am opposed to "free" health care. I am in favour of national health care. But we all should have to pay into the system. The reason it cost so damn much now is that too many people free load off of it. If everybody pays for it via our taxes and an annual deductible, it will be cheaper for all of us.
BTW anything quoted from the Washington Times (owned by Rev Sun Mung Moon and the Unification Church) or from Fox News (obvious) is suspect.
Just to clarify, the article was written up by the Washing Times staff, but the polling numbers came from indepent polling agencies such as the Pew Research Center.
I think the crossover votes to McCain makes a lot of sense. If Hillary gets the nomination, there will be many people frustrated, thinking she stole it, thinking she's a devisive, dishonest "monster" who will come out solely to vote against her. Many African-Americans may also stay home thinking the Democrats have proven they don't stand with them. If Obama gets the nomination, just as you've heard in Hillary's recent speeches, McCain is sure to get some of those voters because of his experience (especially on national security issues), history of reaching across the aisle, and all the other things Sen Clinton has given him credit for that only she, and not Obama can compare to him on. He'll also get a lot of Reagan Democrats against either of them who are more fiscally conservate and tend to oppose such things as free health care for much lower taxes and not paying for others healthcare.
Americans will be reminded how the Democrats made us think they would end the Iraq war when they got the majority in Congress. Obama and Hillary have both voted to continue that war. In that regard, they're all the same.
They voted to continue funding for the troops - big difference.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Trevor92
Just to clarify, the article was written up by the Washing Times staff, but the polling numbers came from indepent polling agencies such as the Pew Research Center.
I think the crossover votes to McCain makes a lot of sense. If Hillary gets the nomination, there will be many people frustrated, thinking she stole it, thinking she's a devisive, dishonest "monster" who will come out solely to vote against her. Many African-Americans may also stay home thinking the Democrats have proven they don't stand with them. If Obama gets the nomination, just as you've heard in Hillary's recent speeches, McCain is sure to get some of those voters because of his experience (especially on national security issues), history of reaching across the aisle, and all the other things Sen Clinton has given him credit for that only she, and not Obama can compare to him on. He'll also get a lot of Reagan Democrats against either of them who are more fiscally conservate and tend to oppose such things as free health care for much lower taxes and not paying for others healthcare.
"National security" as an issue is way overblown. During the era of the USSR when we had an "enemy" that did really want to whup our asses, it was an important issue. Now the only people that care much about it are Republicans already. The rest of us do not even have it as a top issue and, try as they may, the Republicans are not going to convince people that a bunch of Arabs that live in caves in Afganistan are equal in threat to a nation like the USSR that had a thousand nuclear missles pointed at us for 40 years. McCain can try and ride that horse if he wants but that horse is more lame than McCain is!
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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And as for the "Reagan Democrats" and health care, many of them were young and healthy when Reagan ran. Now they are in their 50s, paying out the ass for coverage or doing without. And they are also not happy with McCain letting people sneak into the country to "steal their jobs" (their opinion, not mine).
Mccain comes out a head in foreign policy to both hillary and obama in very poll I have seen.Their will certainly be no health care pased if the economy is bad but then again it is not free to anyone unless you pay no taxes.Neither is a single payer plan.Both plans have premiums but they say they will be reduced by saving from a big plan. Clintons forces people to pay and join;Obama say that appox 15 million will not have to because they will decide it's too expensive.Baiscally it is very much like the federal employee plan and similar premiums.;deducables and co-pay also.
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