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Old 05-12-2017, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambler123 View Post
Ok, if you support Trump you have forever given up your right to take the moral high ground on any political issue or pretend to care about the working class or poor. That is a simple fact.

Now that we have that out of the way, you're tossing up strawmen. "liberals" - the classic boogiemen of the far-right that don't even exist - don't "hate the rich." Progressives (people who have empathy, common sense, and no crippling hatred of people who are different), also don't hate "the rich."

We DO hate parasites, and there are no shortage of very wealthy people who got that way via draining resources out of society and giving almost nothing back. We all know the types, and don't pretend otherwise. The clowns who make millions destroying jobs, the types who don't give a dime to actual charities, the types who actively seek to harm the working class and poor so they can have even more money that they'll never spend in 10 lifetimes. Those type of slimebags. You know, like Trump.

In reality, progressives are not fond of useless bums on the bottom of the socio-economic scale, either. I have no idea where this nutty notion came from that "liberals love welfare bums and criminals," since it is simply not true. What IS true is that "liberals" are smart enough to know that most people who are on welfare actually work or are elderly, disabled, or children. We're not stupid, hate-filled bigots who just assume all "those people" are on welfare and everyone on welfare "is a bum."

Facts - try them sometime.
Again you are completely correct and spot on. The Right is fueled by hate and fear, the need to cast the left in negative ways and thus lie.

We know the left is not in favor of weak borders but without these lies how on earth would the GOP get enough supporters.

Here are the primary lies the Right tells about the left.

Open borders.

welfare Queens

lazy freeloaders.

Hate america

Hate law hate order.

Hate Guns

Hate Freedom

Love Drugs.

Love communism

Not one of those things is true. Yet the Right sells that myth. Every election they ramp up the fear and hate. Why? because without they would get almost zero votes. The GOP has been pushing these lies at various levels and intensities for decades. It keeps people voting for them even as they empty thier pockets and grow fat on the money.

The left of course does have some real differences with the GOP but stunningly most of those differences are the things members of the Right really really want but give up to avoid that list of scary lies.

The left would like better employment terms to prevent abuses. they would like more tolerance of "weirdos" they would like cheaper education, a stronger social safety net, fewer people locked up for nonviolent crimes, a more progressive tax system. OOPS!
that is the one .
a more progressive tax system..

a more progressive tax system...

and there you have it, the entire reason the GOP really exists. They love this twisted system that makes the few very very rich and the many borderline to poor.

Yet the Trump lovers will remain convinced that a 70 year old billionaire who has hardly given away a nickel in his life suddenly gives a damn about the working classes ...

They believe it, because FOX told them it was true. they believe it because they dont want to believe they could be wrong. they desire a leader so much that are willing to take anyone who shouts, and points to others as the source of their woes.

Tell me Trumpers, when the last "illegal" leaves the USA and you still dont seem to be getting what you hoped for who exactly will you blame then? Will it be Americans of a different skin tone? Will it be some new concoction? Do you remember when the only thing that mattered was Abortion???? that seems to have faded away and now it is all about borders....

if trump stays in power and gets even half of what he hopes i will be much richer and most of you will not have a penny more than you do today.

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