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Old 05-10-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Let's face the facts a lot of dumb people on each side.

 
Old 05-10-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cb2008 View Post
Lack of understanding of social theory on topics such as feminism, racism and economics, progressive taxation leads to the poor and uneducated voting against their own best interests. They look at such theories with contempt because think it is elitist when actually they explain their condition and what social policy will help them.
Oh the irony.

I find the bold is an oxymoron.

Let me translate this for you people. What the bold is saying...

"People are stupid and don't realize how smart we are because we are educated and know what is best for people"

Nope, not elitist at all. nope. /facepalm
 
Old 05-10-2017, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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So you think poor white people have no problems?
Yes they do have problems. But your draw to conclusions only about white uneducated voters voting republican yet five a free pass to the uneducated minorities voting democrats. You have arrived at your predetermined conclusions and pushing your theory to fit your conclusions.
 
Old 05-10-2017, 09:29 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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In fact, just a few days ago, a right-wing poster here made a thread saying that Bernie is for socialism. No, Bernie is for a Socialist Democracy, a very different system.
What Bernie wants is to get rid of a free market/capitalist system. That's not a socialist democracy. It's pure socialism, which may lead to a communist system like the Soviet Union during the Cold War Era.
 
Old 05-10-2017, 09:43 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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The Democratic platform actually is already based on progressive ideas of health care as a right, investment in education, the arts, equal wage, increased minimum wage, progressive taxation for all. What they still need is not have their voting rights impinged.

It is the rural and poor whites that we need to reach for them to understand that by voting for the Republican party they are causing immeasurable harm to themselves and their children, while enriching the rich with tax breaks that comes out of their own healthcare funds. It is the poor whites who look at college education with fear and loathing, and fail to understand that it is from the universities and research that social reforms and tax policies come. They look at technical jargon that is is inaccessible to them due to lack of education and brain washing by the GOP.
If you think liberal/democratic policies are effective, look at how messed up California is right now. They decided to let in tons of illegals/refugees while their own residents can't even support themselves, and many cities don't have enough room to build housing. And if you think a progressive tax structure works, look at California. They tax you for everything, but still can't get gangs off their streets, provide housing for homeless (look at some areas of Downtown Los Angeles-- there's homeless camping on the sidewalk), improve their schools and upgrade their outdated infrastructure. And throw in 1/3 of the nation's welfare recipients. And they want to secede?
 
Old 05-10-2017, 09:59 PM
 
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Some of us do.
I thought better of you than that.
That's right...some do.

Do most? Lol...that's my point in the context of the post I was responding to
 
Old 05-10-2017, 10:09 PM
 
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So I could be "educated" if only I admitted my "cisgender", straight, white, male priviledge. And that women and minorities are usually right and that I on the other hand was basically born evil with a silver spoon in my mouth, a mouth that should just shut up and listen to the brilliantly enlightened yet somehow oppressed masses of liberal lunatics. If only I said it was right for government to take even more of my money, 70% of it should do nicely so that non whites and women have an equal shot. The government knows best what to do with the product of my labor afterall, not me.

Yeah, suddenly I don't want to be "educated" when all that means is indoctrination and emotional herd mentality.
 
Old 05-10-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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The vast majority of the "un-educated voters" are Leftists. They routinely ignore common sense and vote for pro-banker/pro-NWO candidates, citing the usual excuses of "diversity" or "global warming" etc to justify more poverty and/or higher taxes

For example, how can ANYONE vote for either Justin Trudeau or Hillary?? The fact they got any votes at ALL is what really blows my mind

The "Macron" dark side/NWO banker guy in France is just the latest example, maaaaaan people are dumb
 
Old 05-11-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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Oh the irony.

I find the bold is an oxymoron.

Let me translate this for you people. What the bold is saying...

"People are stupid and don't realize how smart we are because we are educated and know what is best for people"

Nope, not elitist at all. nope. /facepalm
We ALL need education, otherwise we will all be reinventing the wheel. The poor white people who vote for Republicans have been made to believe, through years of talk radio, that education is unnecessary, all they have to do is listen to their propaganda, hate all minorities because THEY are the problem, not the pols who are leaving them with no job, no health care, no clean air and water. And
everything will be fine for them.
Time to wise up. Listen to those who are doing the research, studying the problem, proposing solutions. Unfortunately lack of education, and brainwashed minds, have made this useful, life saving, information inaccessible to poor whites. All they know is talk radio and religion. Sad.
 
Old 05-11-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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Agree how can we tell this to the many uneducated black and Hispanic voters that's Democrat?
interesting points made so far in this thread.

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"Each of these cities is among the largest in America and arguably has some of the worst metrics. Three of the eight are leading cities for murders; four have the highest crime rates, four have managed to make the Forbes "Most Miserable Cities" list, and at least two are at economic risk.

...It is worth noting that each of these cities has large and largely poor black communities. Many African Americans, sold on the concept that the Democrats represent the little guy, have consistently helped get these Democrats elected. I would ask the black voters of these cities to seriously question whether they believe their lives have been materially improved since their grandparents lived there."
Urban America should give up on the Democrats - Baltimore Sun
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