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Old 03-08-2008, 06:02 PM
 
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[SIZE=2]Nobel Peace Prize Winner Mocks Hillary Clintons 'SILLY' Irish Peace Claims. "She was a Friggen Cheer Leader, She Wasnt a Player...LOL

[/SIZE]Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims
By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 9:30am GMT 08/03/2008Page 1 of 2

Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province.

Hillary Clinton with the Rev Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness after their meeting in Washington last year
"I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don’t want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."

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There is no record of a meeting at Belfast City Hall, though Mrs Clinton attended a ceremony there when her husband turned on the Christmas tree lights in November 1995. The former First Lady appears to be referring a 50-minute event the same day, arranged by the US Consulate, the same day at the Lamp Lighter Café on the city’s Ormeau Road.

Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims - Telegraph

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Old 03-10-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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My husband loved Bill Clinton for all he did for Ireland, but never did he mention Hillary in all those years. And his family followed all the negotiations and politica very carefully and he did not move here until recently and was flabbergasted at the idea that she made that claim.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:00 PM
 
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I couldn't believe the Northern Ireland claim.

I mean, when Bono performed "One" at the National Millennium Concert in Washington on New Year's Eve 1999-2000, he said he was doing it as a personal thank you to _Bill_ for bringing peace to Northern Ireland. Hillary was right there; why not thank her too if she'd played an important role?

As an Irish-American friend says to me, he knows darn well who was responsible for ending the Troubles. "Hillary, pander to me by saying good riddance to Ian Paisley, or promise to meet with Sinn Fein next St. Patrick's Day, or renounce your English ancestors or something. Don't lie to me about your involvement in the Good Friday negotiations."

But Bono put on a good show, and you can even see Hillary nodding to the music while Bill looks on adoringly:


YouTube - BONO & DANIEL LANOIS : ONE (Millennium Concert)
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:27 PM
 
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So much for her foreign policy experience. Hillbilly, back to you.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:09 AM
 
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This is starting to sound like "I invented the internet" all over again.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:24 AM
 
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From the article:
Responding to inquiries from this newspaper, Hillary Clinton’s campaign issued a statement from Mr Hume. "I am quite surprised that anyone would suggest that Hillary Clinton did not perform important foreign policy work as First Lady," the statement said.

"I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland. She visited Northern Ireland, met with very many people and gave very decisive support to the peace process.

"There is no doubt that the people of Northern Ireland think very positively of Hillary Clinton’s support for our peace process, due to her visits to Northern Ireland and her meetings with so many people. In private she made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward." -- That was from John Hume, who shared the Nobel Peace Prize but apparently wasn't interviewed for the article.

No, she wasn't a chief negotiator but she certainly made positive contributions.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:29 AM
 
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Wow. "Positive contributions", eh? That's a far cry from "bringing peace to Northern Ireland" which she stated unequivocally.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:33 AM
 
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Wow. "Positive contributions", eh? That's a far cry from "bringing peace to Northern Ireland" which she stated unequivocally.
Yeah, and better than anything Obama has. His one foreign policy "contribution" happened last week when his campaign bumbling embarrassed the Canadian Prime Minister, spurred an investigation, and got someone fired.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:41 AM
 
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He's got more foreign policy experience than Bill had when he ran. And Bill beat the incumbent president, who had loads more experience. You have to ask yourself why voters were so willing to vote for an unknown quantity back then... and not now?
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:44 AM
 
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Mrs Clinton attended a ceremony there when her husband turned on the Christmas tree lights in November 1995. The former First Lady appears to be referring a 50-minute event the same day, arranged by the US Consulate, the same day at the Lamp Lighter Café on the city’s Ormeau Road.
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Yeah, and better than anything Obama has. His one foreign policy "contribution" happened last week when his campaign bumbling embarrassed the Canadian Prime Minister, spurred an investigation, and got someone fired.
Better than anything Obama has... OK, good luck with that. McCain is obviously your man, so why hang around and keep bashing Obama?
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