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Old 05-17-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I think Trump might be a fluke. He was the right man at the right time with the right message.
Many felt that Obama and his cronies were driving the country off a cliff and the only thing that Hillary offered was a tap of the brakes but no change in direction.

Trump has been doing some nutty things but it is the media that is hyping his stumbling to outrageous proportions and spreading fear which bubbles to hatred.

There are many people out there that silently support Trump and they are silent because of the atmosphere of hate that has been created by the media and they are afraid of actual violence.

I drove by a house last week that was flying a Trump flag and a 2' by 4' Trump sign attached to the house. My first thought was "that homeowner is brave to make such a stand" my second thought was "I wonder how often that sign gets egged."


If the media treated Trump like they treated Obama (with kid gloves) his approval ratings would be much better.


Love, Loathe or Lump Trump he is our President at least for the next 4 years and we would all be better off to work with him and not against.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Bob You are implying 100 million of your fellow Americans are stupid creatures? .
The ones who fail to understand they need the Rust Belt EC votes are stupid. That is correct.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:30 AM
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Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
I think Trump might be a fluke. He was the right man at the right time with the right message.
Many felt that Obama and his cronies were driving the country off a cliff and the only thing that Hillary offered was a tap of the brakes but no change in direction.

Trump has been doing some nutty things but it is the media that is hyping his stumbling to outrageous proportions and spreading fear which bubbles to hatred.

There are many people out there that silently support Trump and they are silent because of the atmosphere of hate that has been created by the media and they are afraid of actual violence.

I drove by a house last week that was flying a Trump flag and a 2' by 4' Trump sign attached to the house. My first thought was "that homeowner is brave to make such a stand" my second thought was "I wonder how often that sign gets egged."


If the media treated Trump like they treated Obama (with kid gloves) his approval ratings would be much better.


Love, Loathe or Lump Trump he is our President at least for the next 4 years and we would all be better off to work with him and not against.
I agree with most of this but Trump I can't work with a traitor to the country. I call it right now, the Democrats will have the White House in 2020. Pence is too Christian conservative and whomever is running whether Pence or whoever the Republicans come with will be in the unenviable spot McCain was in 2008 when he had to run against Bush policy on top of Democratic policy. This time, it will be Trump. This was a big reason why Ford lost.
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Old 05-17-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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I don't see anyone on the left making positive moves toward the next election yet. They still aren't listening to why this happened.
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They are stupid creatures.
So, what y'all are suggesting is that the democrats aren't studying the situation and are incapable of ever overcoming the... what?... that ended up with trump getting elected. Perhaps you are both wrong. Perhaps someone who takes a measured and thoughtful approach to the next election will emerge as a candidate. It is, after all, only 100-some days into the new administration and there is lots of time left. We shouldn't expect a big rush of ill-considered candidates (like, ummm... 17 or so?) Only time will tell.
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Old 05-17-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The 719
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ht

right along with trump wont run, trump cant win the primary, trump cant with the general election etc.
Yup.

They are manufacturing that news hard though, gotta give them credit for that.
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Old 05-17-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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The past 4 months have felt like 4 years to the entire nation. Trump may be able to keep up his constant tornado, but the country can't take it for much longer. This situation is simply un-sustainable.
The ONLY thing unsustainable are all the lies coming from the media and the Left. In due time it will all come crashing down and every lie is exposed for what it is and where it originated. It WILL happen, you wait and see.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Lancaster, SC
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Seems like every time I hear someone complain about the media making up lies about Trump, Trump tweets out confirmation that the media was telling the truth. Some recent notable lies by the media were that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation and that Trump gave information to the Russians that he should not have given out.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That darn media...

It must be their fault that tRump is failing.

Reporting on tRump's actions and then having the gall to show video of him saying what he says.

After all, the whole government is set up for tRump to roll a strike. Instead, he's done nothing but throw gutterballs. And blame everyone around him and the press for his failures.

Compare and contrast.

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Old 05-17-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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So, what y'all are suggesting is that the democrats aren't studying the situation and are incapable of ever overcoming the... what?...
DNC strategy of hating wwc (deplorables comment, Schumer "We'll add 3 educated Pa folk for each 1 wwc we lose", Clinton's "Gonna kill lots of coal jobs") has not been internalized as a terrible strategy. By now, DNC should be on a Rust Belt/wwc apology tour, formally denounce TPP, formally call for better terms of NAFTA, formally call for new terms from WTO when China manipulates currency, etc

No Rust Belt = No Democratic path to 270
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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No they haven't. Try sticking your head outside your bubble. You'd think after losing the presidency, losing 1,000+ seats across the country, losing most governors offices, most state Senates and Houses that liberals would get it through their heads that half the country doesn't think like they do and never will.
Oh, my head is in no bubble, that's for sure. I'm fully aware of all you said.

but I've been around for a while, and have seen other times like this, in both parties. Whenever one becomes dominant, they always think they've finally won it all at last and things will stay winners for them forever.

What usually follows is a quick and brutal reversal of their gains. And then it all starts over again once more. As often as not, the President is the one person who starts the sudden downfall.

Not always, but often.
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