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Old 05-16-2017, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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As a disclaimer - I'm no great fan of the president and the way he is bulldozing through long standing norms and precedents, but for the sake of the nation, recognize that we are stuck with him and the country's success is going to be correlated with his for years to come. This article does a good job analyzing how (1) presidents virtually always win a second term in office, and (2) the Democratic party has decayed so badly that its prospects for gaining the electoral power to stand up to Trump are very poor.

Hoping for some analytical responses and not just cheerleaders on one hand and haters on the other ...

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Trump will likely win reelection in 2020

Most Americans don’t like Trump.

Trump will most likely be reelected in 2020.

How can both of these statements be true? Here’s how:

Even when people are unhappy with a state of affairs, they are usually disinclined to change it. In my area of research, the cognitive and behavioral sciences, this is known as the “default effect.”

Software and entertainment companies exploit this tendency to empower programs to collect as much data as possible from consumers, or to keep us glued to our seats for “one more episode” of a streaming show. Overall, only 5 percent of users ever change these settings, despite widespread concerns about how companies might be using collected information or manipulating people’s choices.

The default effect also powerfully shapes U.S. politics.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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As a disclaimer - I'm no great fan of the president and the way he is bulldozing through long standing norms and precedents, but for the sake of the nation, recognize that we are stuck with him and the country's success is going to be correlated with his for years to come. This article does a good job analyzing how (1) presidents virtually always win a second term in office, and (2) the Democratic party has decayed so badly that its prospects for gaining the electoral power to stand up to Trump are very poor.

Hoping for some analytical responses and not just cheerleaders on one hand and haters on the other ...

************************************************** ***************************

Trump will likely win reelection in 2020

Most Americans don’t like Trump.

Trump will most likely be reelected in 2020.

How can both of these statements be true? Here’s how:

Even when people are unhappy with a state of affairs, they are usually disinclined to change it. In my area of research, the cognitive and behavioral sciences, this is known as the “default effect.”

Software and entertainment companies exploit this tendency to empower programs to collect as much data as possible from consumers, or to keep us glued to our seats for “one more episode” of a streaming show. Overall, only 5 percent of users ever change these settings, despite widespread concerns about how companies might be using collected information or manipulating people’s choices.

The default effect also powerfully shapes U.S. politics.
"Most Americans don’t like Trump."

Thank you for your very biased opinion.

Which that is all it is.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Trump will be out of office long before 2020 arrives.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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Trump will be out of office long before 2020 arrives.
right along with trump wont run, trump cant win the primary, trump cant with the general election etc.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:12 PM
 
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right along with trump wont run, trump cant win the primary, trump cant with the general election etc.
I know. Love those delusional snowflakes.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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right along with trump wont run, trump cant win the primary, trump cant with the general election etc.
The past 4 months have felt like 4 years to the entire nation. Trump may be able to keep up his constant tornado, but the country can't take it for much longer. This situation is simply un-sustainable.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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The past 4 months have felt like 4 years to the entire nation. .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkq7WZTzkLQ
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I think Trump is a unique scenario and I have a hard time believing he gets a second term. It all depends on whether he can hold the Rust Belt. If he can't hold Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, he doesn't have a chance at a second term. There is a high chance other swing states that were barely Trump like Iowa could be back in the blue column. FL and NC also might go blue. FL did both times for Obama and NC did once. It's not unthinkable. That's not even considering what will happen if it turns out Trump really is guilty of obstructing justice. It's a different situation than Truman.

It will be very difficult for Trump to win a second term if he even makes it to 2020. If he would have surprised everybody and actually turned out to be a decent President, then maybe it could have happened, but as things currently stand, not a chance.

Also, I believe Democrats will be significantly more energized in 2020 than they were in 2016 for Hillary Clinton. The lack of enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton helped put Trump over the top in the Rust Belt.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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The past 4 months have felt like 4 years to the entire nation.
No they haven't. Try sticking your head outside your bubble. You'd think after losing the presidency, losing 1,000+ seats across the country, losing most governors offices, most state Senates and Houses that liberals would get it through their heads that half the country doesn't think like they do and never will.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Gone
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As a disclaimer - I'm no great fan of the president and the way he is bulldozing through long standing norms and precedents, but for the sake of the nation, recognize that we are stuck with him and the country's success is going to be correlated with his for years to come. This article does a good job analyzing how (1) presidents virtually always win a second term in office, and (2) the Democratic party has decayed so badly that its prospects for gaining the electoral power to stand up to Trump are very poor.

Hoping for some analytical responses and not just cheerleaders on one hand and haters on the other ...

************************************************** ***************************

Trump will likely win reelection in 2020

Most Americans don’t like Trump.

Trump will most likely be reelected in 2020.

How can both of these statements be true? Here’s how:

Even when people are unhappy with a state of affairs, they are usually disinclined to change it. In my area of research, the cognitive and behavioral sciences, this is known as the “default effect.”

Software and entertainment companies exploit this tendency to empower programs to collect as much data as possible from consumers, or to keep us glued to our seats for “one more episode” of a streaming show. Overall, only 5 percent of users ever change these settings, despite widespread concerns about how companies might be using collected information or manipulating people’s choices.

The default effect also powerfully shapes U.S. politics.
Trump will not be in office when 2020 rolls around and no, the Nations prosperity is not tied to trump being in office.
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