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Election fraud has already been proven in some states, but now the DEMentia party is refusing to participate in the investigation in other states. If there is no fraud, why are they afraid of assisting with the investigation?
JustFacts.com estimates that between 0.59 million and 5.7 million illegals voted in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, that is a wide range, but it proves that illegals could make a difference in states with a close race.
“The bigger the purse, the more effort folks would spend to get at it,” said Joe Hall, chief technologist at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a digital advocacy group. “And in this case, this is such a high-profile and not-so-competent tech operation that we're likely to see the hacktivists and pranksters take shots at it.”
The more information you put in one spot, the greater the incentive for hackers to crack it. You're not going to convince most states of the wisdom of putting personal information for every voter in the country on one site despite the amount of safeguards you think you can devise to protect it. Even Republican Secretaries of State think that giving anyone that much access to personal information is a lousy idea. With voter information decentralization is an asset, not a liability.
Election fraud has already been proven in some states, but now the DEMentia party is refusing to participate in the investigation in other states. If there is no fraud, why are they afraid of assisting with the investigation?
JustFacts.com estimates that between 0.59 million and 5.7 million illegals voted in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, that is a wide range, but it proves that illegals could make a difference in states with a close race.
Are all 24 states refusing to cooperate what you call Democratic states?
NO. Not the OP here, but they are not. It's not a fraud investigation, it's collecting data. And patriotic Americans should be appalled. This is frightening.
Yeah, I looked at this closer and agree that the "data gathering" is definitely a step too far. There must be some type of data that could be gathered that did not include personal details, e.g., names linked to addresses and etc. If states were more diligent in purging their rolls of dead people and requiring i.d. for voting, then the percentage of illegal votes would be small and the effects of fraud less likely to be serious.
As it is, when I go to vote they have volunteers sitting there who do not ask for i.d. and, when presented, will not look at it. Stupid. A country that refuses to secure its borders AND its elective process is a county sliding into the dustbin. Do a google search for the "broken window theory" and you will see what happens when a tipping point is reached. When the law is enforced, only a small percentage of lawbreakers exist, but when the law is loosely or not enforced, then the percentage rises and eventually a tipping point is reached. Same with elections. Of course, some parties benefit more from illegal voting than other parties.
NO. Not the OP here, but they are not. It's not a fraud investigation, it's collecting data. And patriotic Americans should be appalled. This is frightening.
Just curious, how do the contents of this data collection drive compare to the voter database that Obama assembled early in his Presidency for use by his non profit.
Dems refuse to participate in election fraud investigation
Kansas is refusing, for God's sake. OP, refresh our memories, how long as Kansas been a blue state?
And after you answer that, maybe you could refresh our memories about Alabama, North Dakota and Indiana, as well, as they are among the states who are also refusing to provide information.
Maybe, just maybe, this is a really bad idea to begin with, when even the reddest of red states won't go along with it?
Just curious, how do the contents of this data collection drive compare to the voter database that Obama assembled early in his Presidency for use by his non profit.
They are not comparable. Obama's database was built by using publicly available data records from both government and non government sources. They were able to find out if a person was registered to vote and what party they were affiliated with. That was combined with data covering areas such as magazine subscriptions, auto registration, housing values, etc. It is a sophisticated database comparable to the marketing databases in use by private companies to target their marketing dollars.
The data collection going on now is to determine if someone has voted illegally. The requests include name, address, party affiliation, voting history back to 2006, social security number, date of birth, criminal record, military status, etc. Much of the personal information asked for is not provided to others (such as the Obama campaign) under any circumstance.
IMHO, the request by the Trump administration is simply a fishing expedition in order to satisfy the President's insistence that he won the popular vote.
NO. Not the OP here, but they are not. It's not a fraud investigation, it's collecting data. And patriotic Americans should be appalled. This is frightening.
Washington state provides licenses to illegal aliens and also has motor-voter registration.
So somebody decided to register to vote using my name and phone number. My name is rather unique. I believe there are three or four of us on this planet with my name. Definitely, only one in the US. The county sent me a note, saying pick one place to vote.
IF I lived in a large metro area or had a common name it is highly likely that he could have voted in 2014. BTW in Washington state, registering illegally is not a crime...only voting.
In motor-voter states there is probably ten of thousands of illegal votes being cast. It cost one guy the governorship here in Washington.
I think this is a serious enough problem that the Commission is very worthwhile and the states should participate in providing data to the Federal government.
With all the stories of intereference in all our elections we need to start with this....and look at our voting practices.
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