An electable Republican gubernatorial candidate? (CA) (voting, campaign, legal, liberal)

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

I'm a very middle-of-the-road Democrat, and I actually voted for Arnold when it hit the fan, and signed the petition to remove Gray Davis.

So, as the audience you are looking for, let me tell you why people like me wouldn't vote for a Republican in the next election, no matter what - and that's because it would be an anti-Trump vote - a vote that would not give Trump any more votes in his White House agenda.

I'm appalled by Trump and the GOP that publicly supports him. I feel it's my job to make their job as difficult as possible to push through their agenda.

So, even though I'm not in love with Newsom, he'll most likely get my vote.

I don't care if you go on and on about how you disagree with what I just said. But, if you want to understand why people like me wouldn't vote for any Republican on the ticket - even though we are fence-riders - here's your answer.

[mauialoha]

very good post NoMoreSnowForMe. And yes despite the way we are talked about by the loquatios right wing of CD, I'd say most of us are moderate and would be quite open to some conservative ideas if the Republicans would get real.

How in any good concience can you tolerate Trump as your leader? I think the only good that might come from this Trump presidency is if he splits the Republican party in half with the good conservatives on one side and the deplorables on the other.

[AlongTheI-5]

Originally Posted by Kevdawgg

Or give the red counties that went for Trump in Northern California to Nevada, and give Clark County (in Nevada) to California. Sound like a fair trade?

Another pro-gerrymandering right winger. Who would have thunk it.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by AlongTheI-5

Another pro-gerrymandering right winger. Who would have thunk it.

Like you, I detest gerrymandering. However, pretending that only one party has engaged in it is fallacious.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by majoun

Actually they were the folks who supported Loretta Sanchez.

They are outnumbered by the crazy left Dems but the right Republican could get their support - and could get elected with their support - just as they supported Arnold.

If you really think that a "RINO" would be no different than a left wing Dem you deserve a left wing Dem.

Are you kidding me? Kamala Harris beat Sanchez by 25 freaking points.


You're totally missing the point about California politics. Left wing dem, moderate dem, RINO. It won't matter for California. Newsom is going to beat his closest opponent by 20-30 points, take the Governorship, and run California straight into the ground with the assistance of a super majority Democrat Senate/Assembly.

Illinois Part 2 by 2025-2030.

You really think you can change the course or California politics by supporting a RINO-led opposition?

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

I'm a very middle-of-the-road Democrat, and I actually voted for Arnold when it hit the fan, and signed the petition to remove Gray Davis.

So, as the audience you are looking for, let me tell you why people like me wouldn't vote for a Republican in the next election, no matter what - and that's because it would be an anti-Trump vote - a vote that would not give Trump any more votes in his White House agenda.

I'm appalled by Trump and the GOP that publicly supports him. I feel it's my job to make their job as difficult as possible to push through their agenda.

So, even though I'm not in love with Newsom, he'll most likely get my vote.

I don't care if you go on and on about how you disagree with what I just said. But, if you want to understand why people like me wouldn't vote for any Republican on the ticket - even though we are fence-riders - here's your answer.

See majoun?

Read the above post. This is my evidence that moderate Dems vote lockstep with far left Dems. The value systems between "moderate dems" and "far left dems" are far too similar for them to not vote "lockstep".

It's like the fallacy of saying "moderate Islam" needs to help the fight against "radical Islam". It simply doesn't happen in the real world.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by mauialoha

very good post NoMoreSnowForMe. And yes despite the way we are talked about by the loquatios right wing of CD, I'd say most of us are moderate and would be quite open to some conservative ideas if the Republicans would get real.

How in any good concience can you tolerate Trump as your leader? I think the only good that might come from this Trump presidency is if he splits the Republican party in half with the good conservatives on one side and the deplorables on the other.

The best thing about the Trump presidency is that he managed to fracture the Democrat party (between far left guys like Ellison, Sanders and establishment people like Clinton, Obama). Trump so far has proven exactly why he won the presidency, and why the Dems are split up and directionless.

[mauialoha]

Yes it's we Democrats who are directionless, says the guy who's majority party can't even get 50 votes for the most important thing on their agenda. Yeah, right.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by mauialoha

Yes it's we Democrats who are directionless, says the guy who's majority party can't even get 50 votes for the most important thing on their agenda. Yeah, right.

Yes, Democrats are directionless.

1,000+ lost legislative seats in the past 6 years.

The most important thing on the agenda is fixing or ridding the nation of ObozoCare, you know, the imploding catastrophe that has robbed millions of coverage due to increasing premium cost, and was put into law with 100% Democrat support and 0% Republican support. GOP fixing DNC created problems is the most important thing on the agenda, in that you are correct.

[MtnSurfer]

As an independent, I don't consider myself Democrat or Republican since I've see significant problems in both parties. That said, I've probably voted an equal amount on both sides depending on who's running. Like NoMoreSnow, I can't stand Trump or any candidate who wants to further his agenda. Although I voted against Jerry, he actually ended up doing more good for the state in turning things around during the Great Recession. I would vote for him over the other choices if given the option. I don't really like the things I've seen or heard so from Gavin. Although I do like the fact that he's moving in a different direction than Trump on several key fronts. The reality is, its going to come down to the least terrible choice for most Californians. For many independents and dems there's a high probability it will be a vote against Trump's agenda infiltrating our state more than for Gavin or any other candidate. Could there be a moderate Republican in the shadow of Trump not licking at his feet? Hard to tell yet.

Derek