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Old 07-05-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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Manhattan Beach’s David Hadley announces 2018 run for governor

Now, it's generally considered extremely unlikely that a Republican will be able to beat Newsom next year or even make the top-two final in November, but David Hadley might be able to pull it off if anyone could, especially with so many moderate Dems in CA not pleased about the party's sharp left turn. There are solid blue states with GOP governors, like Massachusetts, Maryland, and Vermont.

Some might consider him a "RINO" but any successful California Republican would need to be a "RINO" just as successful Democrats in red states are by necessity "DINOs". With the CA Dems turning to ideological purity there might be a void to be filled.

The odds are against anyone who doesn't have a (D) after their name succeeding Brown but Hadley might be able to at least get to #2. (Admittedly, John Cox also might be able to swing this. A more conservative candidate like Travis Allen, OTOH, probably wouldn't even come in 4th, and is more likely to be governor of Jefferson than governor of California...)
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:04 PM
 
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Manhattan Beach’s David Hadley announces 2018 run for governor

Now, it's generally considered extremely unlikely that a Republican will be able to beat Newsom next year or even make the top-two final in November, but David Hadley might be able to pull it off if anyone could, especially with so many moderate Dems in CA not pleased about the party's sharp left turn. There are solid blue states with GOP governors, like Massachusetts, Maryland, and Vermont.

Some might consider him a "RINO" but any successful California Republican would need to be a "RINO" just as successful Democrats in red states are by necessity "DINOs". With the CA Dems turning to ideological purity there might be a void to be filled.

The odds are against anyone who doesn't have a (D) after their name succeeding Brown but Hadley might be able to at least get to #2. (Admittedly, John Cox also might be able to swing this. A more conservative candidate like Travis Allen, OTOH, probably wouldn't even come in 4th, and is more likely to be governor of Jefferson than governor of California...)
At least he has a "D" in his name. HaDley.

In CA most voters pay no attention to who the candidate is, just if he is a "D" supported candidate.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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At least he has a "D" in his name. HaDley.

In CA most voters pay no attention to who the candidate is, just if he is a "D" supported candidate.
Yup. Minorities have been brainwashed to think like this.
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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Yup. Minorities have been brainwashed to think like this.
All ethnicities, really, outside of certain pockets.

Hadley represented an Assembly district that is bluish purple and ethnically/racially diverse (although not that economically diverse). So he does have a track record of appealing to people who are outside of the normal GOP base. I do agree the odds are heavily against him but he might actually have a chance,

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Old 07-05-2017, 10:00 PM
 
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CA needs someone like Trump. We need someone who can make CA strong again. Californians are ready for change.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:05 PM
 
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CA needs someone like Trump. We need someone who can make CA strong again. Californians are ready for change.
Been there, done that. Arnold.
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Old 07-06-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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it wont matter that much if the other party have super majority in both houses.
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Old 07-06-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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Been there, done that. Arnold.
Uh, Arnold was only better than the only other choice and ... nothing like Trump, except maybe his morals.
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Old 07-06-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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especially with so many moderate Dems in CA not pleased about the party's sharp left turn.

Moderate dems will only vote for RINOs (not true fiscal conservatives) which gives us the same result as voting for a Dem, that's why they are called RINOs in the first place. We tried this with Arnold, RINOs are not change, they are the same as Dems.

Voting a RINO into office in CA won't fix the state's problems. Even voting a right leaning GOP candidate may not be enough at this point as we've seen with the pension and budget crisis in Illinois.

The problem with California is simple, the state spends far more than it receives in tax revenues, plain and simple. The only way to curtail that is to cut expenses. MoonBeam tried to do this, with some success in 2010-2012, and it lead to a very small budget surplus. Then the Democrats who actually control the state assembly started fighting him tooth and nail on budget cuts, and MoonBeam turned full tax and spend DemoDummy again.

Gavin Newsom doesn't know anything else besides tax and spend, he will make MoonBeam look like a fiscal conservative once he reaches office.

David Hadley, or even Travis Allen won't be able to do anything in California until the Democrats lose control of the assembly/senate. If by some miracle one of those guys gets elected over Gavin Newsom, they get stonewalled by Kevin De Leon and his allies. Net effect = Zero.

The only thing that will change California is what is currently changing Illinois. A huge budgetary crisis due to pension liabilities, and fortunately for you, it's coming. California has the largest unfunded pension liabilities in the country, and a tax base that is being chased away by increasing burden. Eventually it will come to a head. 2020, 2025, etc, but eventually socialism runs out of other people's money, and then you're totally ****ed. I was hoping that Single Payer would pass and be implemented in California, but even the Democrat dummies in the budget committees saw just how idiotic it would be to double taxes over night with the stroke of a pen. But had they continued with their idiocy, maybe, it might have caused the eventual Democrat parties collapse in California more quickly.

Instead California gets longer suffering until it all collapses under its own weight. California will be Illinois part 2.
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Old 07-06-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Moderate dems will only vote for RINOs (not true fiscal conservatives) which gives us the same result as voting for a Dem, that's why they are called RINOs in the first place. We tried this with Arnold, RINOs are not change, they are the same as Dems.
Guess you're happy with the Dem monopoly, then.
Ideological purity helped kill the GOP in California. Now the Dems are going crazy for ideological purity and so there is an opportunity.
Any successful Republican in California will have to be a RINO by definition. Just like any successful Democrat in Texas will have to be a DINO by definition.
Running a Ted Cruz in California makes as much sense as running a Kamala Harris in Texas.

Even fiscal catastrophe won't elect a conservative in California. The only thing that would, would be Jefferson splitting off, and then you'd have solid red rule in a part of what is now California.
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