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Old 08-09-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Nita,

It is being talked about because Pence himself has set up a PAC. For someone who isn't thinking about running, it's certainly a bit odd to set up a PAC, especially this early as no previous VP has done so.

Do I think he will Primary Trump? Very unlikely. Do I think Pence setting up a PAC this early merits a discussion about him possibly running? Yes
I suppose setting it up is "just in case" Trump decides not to run for a second term. I believe Trump probably has a "let's wait and see" attitude about a 2nd term at this point, and Pence wants to be prepared to step up to the plate.

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Out of curiosity, why do you think Pence decided to set up PAC at this Pont? Would you at least agree it's a bit unusual?

Fwiw, I'm not saying he will run, but setting up a PAC at this point certainly raises speculation.
I don't know why it would be considered unusual. Being prepared "just in case" makes a lot of sense. Pence comes from a conservative part of the country, where my ancestors settled, and there is a different mind set when it comes to being prepared and planning ahead, goes along with taking personal responsibility for one's self, something dead in most parts of the country.

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I am not doubting for a second he may run if Trump does not. The point I was making simply is: we have so far before it is anywhere near 2020 that to even be making a deal out of this or any other thing a possible candidate might be doing is reaching for straws. Now, after the 2018 elections it will be totally different.
Oh, you know them, they try to make a deal out of anything that relates to Trump. Many of the liberals here deserve to have a President Pence, and then, they'll have something to cry about. If the GOP stays in control and Pence is elected POTUS, the agenda of the religious far right will move along rapidly. Too bad we have lost all of the proverbs like "Be careful what you wish for.", because that would certainly apply here.
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Pence running for Pres?

Of course he is.

I hope he's unsuccessful.
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Old 08-09-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Pence's term will begin in about 7.5 years
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Old 08-09-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I am not doubting for a second he may run if Trump does not. The point I was making simply is: we have so far before it is anywhere near 2020 that to even be making a deal out of this or any other thing a possible candidate might be doing is reaching for straws. Now, after the 2018 elections it will be totally different.
Perhaps, but why exactly is Pence setting up a PAC and hiring high profile political campaign operatives so early?? That is the main reasons why there is the speculation.
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Old 08-09-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I suppose setting it up is "just in case" Trump decides not to run for a second term. I believe Trump probably has a "let's wait and see" attitude about a 2nd term at this point, and Pence wants to be prepared to step up to the plate.



I don't know why it would be considered unusual. Being prepared "just in case" makes a lot of sense. Pence comes from a conservative part of the country, where my ancestors settled, and there is a different mind set when it comes to being prepared and planning ahead, goes along with taking personal responsibility for one's self, something dead in most parts of the country.



Oh, you know them, they try to make a deal out of anything that relates to Trump. Many of the liberals here deserve to have a President Pence, and then, they'll have something to cry about. If the GOP stays in control and Pence is elected POTUS, the agenda of the religious far right will move along rapidly. Too bad we have lost all of the proverbs like "Be careful what you wish for.", because that would certainly apply here.
It is considered unusual because no VP has previously set up a PAC or hired high profile campaign operatives this early.
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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It is considered unusual because no VP has previously set up a PAC or hired high profile campaign operatives this early.
...especially while serving under a first term President whose backers say will run for a second term.
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Out West
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Out of curiosity, why do you think Pence decided to set up PAC at this Pont? Would you at least agree it's a bit unusual?

Fwiw, I'm not saying he will run, but setting up a PAC at this point certainly raises speculation.
It's not strange at all.

This is the second thread where it's evident that the left seems to have missed a very big piece of information. I guess it got drowned out in the whole Russia Collusion lies...or maybe you all forgot? No, I think maybe some lefties know, but most of them have no idea. And if that's the case, this is going to be hilarious when some time passes and they find out, way too late.

Anyway, sure, you go ahead with that theory.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I don't think setting up a PAC is unusual, given the circumstances.

Trump is 71 now. That's an age when any person begins to realize they are no spring chicken any more, especially in a job that is as demanding as the Presidency. The strains of the job are mental, not physical, and mental strain wears on a person of that age much more than it does on someone who is in his 50s.

I'm 73. I know full well how it is.

Mike Pence is only 58. That's pretty much the ideal age for a President- if Trump lasts out his term, Pence will be 62 or 63, the average age our Presidents are when elected for the first time.

Given all that, and other reasons in addition, Pence is just being prudent setting up a PAC. Most Congressmen have them, and Pence might not even use his for a Presidential run at all; after a good taste of the madhouse, he might want to go back home and try to get his old job back. His PAC would serve that purpose just as well as any other position.

And I'm pretty sure Mike Pence isn't ready to give up politics just yet. If Trump goes into 2020 smelling like a rose, Pence could bail out then. Many Vice Presidents have only served one term under a 2-term President.

We just haven't seen one for quite a while. But we may see it commonly in the years to come; things cycle, and a 1-term V.P. could be one that becomes common this century, just as it was in the 19th and early 20th.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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Question, has Mother given him permission to run yet?
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It's not strange at all.

This is the second thread where it's evident that the left seems to have missed a very big piece of information. I guess it got drowned out in the whole Russia Collusion lies...or maybe you all forgot? No, I think maybe some lefties know, but most of them have no idea. And if that's the case, this is going to be hilarious when some time passes and they find out, way too late.

Anyway, sure, you go ahead with that theory.

What theory is that??

My point was that it is unusual for a VP to set up a PAC and hire big name campaign operatives this early so the speculation is certainly valid. That isn't to say he will run, but considering no other VP has done it this early, it is a valid discussion.
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