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Losers just don't get the message anymore, maybe that is because they are slow from the get-go!
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Originally Posted by Drewjdeg
I don't know, most Americans are ready for compromise.
Kasich was a Democrat running for the Republican ticket. He leaned so left, he fell down. Now, he wants to be an Independent. He isn't likeable to the majority of people, has problems in his own state, embraces fracking which is poisoning the water supply, embraces illegal aliens, just "no".
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Originally Posted by Threerun
They'd have to start the platform now to garner support.
They would have to be able to raise a ton of money, which I don't see happening. I have no use for Kasich and have no idea who the other one is, and I suspect many others see this matchup as I do.
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Originally Posted by Catgirl64
I have a lot of respect for Kasich. He didn't get nearly enough credit for sticking to the issues in a series of very nasty debates.
Well, had he been a Democrat, sticking to the issues would have helped him. He had mostly a Democratic platform, perhaps that is where he fell short.
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Originally Posted by Threerun
Kasich on top. He has the ability to garner cross over votes from moderates on either side plus independents.
No, not really, but it is good to have a dream. How many potential nominees not getting the party's nomination went on later to win the presidency? I know a few that didn't.
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Originally Posted by phma
No
In reality they are both democrats.
If they run as independents it would be good. It would split the democrat vote. It would guarantee a Trump win. IMO
Exactly. Kasich didn't do that well pulling votes for the GOP, but branded himself as a Republican with a left-leaning platform. I don't see him as being any use to anyone in either party.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
There is a reason Kasich drew zero interest as a presidential candidate. He would need a very strong showing from the Baby Boomers and after robbing Social Security, he is never going to get it.
He won't get support of the Baby Boomers, 2 in our household, aware of the needs/issues, and we don't want him.
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Originally Posted by Threerun
The problem with the far right is that they keep espousing that everyone 'not exactly like them in lock step' is not a Republican. You are a RINO, or a Democrat.
The Republican party is pretty fractured, so I tend to disagree with that broad assessment.
I'm a registered 'R' that identifies as an Independent. There are a lot of us. A lot of us...
I have a registered "everything" so far. And the far right is a minority of the party. Is this about "pot"? Is everything about "pot" or are we talking for amnesty for illegal aliens that Kasich wanted to give?
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Originally Posted by Timmyy
It wouldn't guarantee a Trump win. The way things look now Trump might not get the Republican nod. Funny you call Kasich a Democrat while Trump is the biggest RINO of them all.
We need something to unite us and bring us back from the darkness Trump is leading us into.
Don't kid yourself, Trump, if he wants it, will get the nomination. Kasich had a mostly Democratic platform, so "if it walks like duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck!" Supports amnesty for illegal aliens, supports common core, allow abortions up to 20 weeks, wants to limit the power of unions, etc. I oppose boots on the ground to fight ISIS - our troops will die at the hands of those savages, but Kasich wants to do that.
And, there is something about him that just gags me!
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Originally Posted by fisheye
This isn't a 'Unity Party'; it's an 'Open Borders Party'. There are one-world-government types that are going to shove cheap labor on us regardless of what the voters/citizens want. The rich elitist want to become richer and they are doing everything they can do to stay in control. They spent over one billion last election to open up our Country even further. They love to talk about raising the minimum wage; but they want illegals to steal the last jobs remaining.
If the Democrats ever want another chance; work for the people that built your Party. Work for the workers in this Country and not the ones in other countries! I will never come back home to the Democratic Party until they see the light!
Kasich seemed okay. Economically he's fairly good. Environmentally he's a little weak but fairly balanced between economic exploitation and preservation. Globally he's all over the place. We're not the world police but we need more ground troops fighting ISIS and need to invade Syria and get rid of Assad and need to posture to show the Chinese whose boss. Basically he has no policy there. Free trade he's fairly good but for the wrong reasons. It's more about strengthening our position to get in a trade war with China than because he believes in free trade. Religion... well, he's a bible thumper but fairly moderate as bible thumper goes.
I don't really know anything about Hickenlooper. I assume he's more moderate as Colorado is fairly moderate.
Under this scenario, Kasich, a Republican, and Hickenlooper, a Democrat, would run as independents with Kasich at the top of the ticket, said the source, who cautioned it has only been casually talked about.
I feel like this would be a very strong ticket if it were to happen. People are fed up with partisanship.
I disagree with several of Kasich's policies but I like him as a person. I would consider voting for this ticket.
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There needs to be a return to the middle, and some common sense. I would rather people work together to make things happen, and start thinking of issues as right or wrong, not right or left.
Under this scenario, Kasich, a Republican, and Hickenlooper, a Democrat, would run as independents with Kasich at the top of the ticket, said the source, who cautioned it has only been casually talked about.
Count me in, I am sick of the extremists on both sides. American Democracy has jumped the shark, it is time to try something new. It can't get much worse, the existing two party system is so broken that Americans thought it would be a good idea to vote for a racist buffoon suffering from mental illness.
In reality they are both democrats.
If they run as independents it would be good. It would split the democrat vote. It would guarantee a Trump win. IMO
Or you could say in reality they are both Republicans. I like Hick, but he's a fairly conservative Democrat.
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