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Old 01-14-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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that is simple..stop the winner take all mentality of the left


California has 55 ec votes..Hillary won that state by 60%...60% of 55 is 33...Hillary gets 33 ec of California, Trump gets 22


New York has 29 ec votes...Hillary won with 59%....59% of 29 is 17.... Hillary gets 17 votes, trump gets 12


Florida has 29 ec votes...trump won with 51%....51% of 29 is 14.7.... trump gets 15 votes,hillary gets 14


Michigan has 16 ec votes..trump won by .3%(IOW a 50/50)...trump gets 8 Hillary gets 8


etc, etc, etc.


its not really that hard
how is that the "winner take all mentality of the left" or do you just automatically throw in a knee-jerk insult of the left in every post?
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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how is that the "winner take all mentality of the left" or do you just automatically throw in a knee-jerk insult of the left in every post?
the left is promoting the "popular vote PACT"..which is a winner take all completely.. your state give ALL its votes to the "national" or "popular" winner....its an all or nothing scheme from the left..


the fascist left deserves the insults
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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the left is promoting the "popular vote PACT"..which is a winner take all completely.. your state give ALL its votes to the "national" or "popular" winner....its an all or nothing scheme from the left..


the fascist left deserves the insults
Correct, and if your State is in that compact then you have let other States decide your vote, for if your State voted for candidate X and candidate Y won the popular vote, then all your votes are for not.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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"for naught"
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Old 02-07-2019, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Mesa, AZ
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What happened to all of the moderate Democrats? Has anybody seen one lately?
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Old 02-09-2019, 03:23 AM
 
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What happened to all of the moderate Democrats? Has anybody seen one lately?
Unicorn.
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Old 02-09-2019, 06:19 AM
 
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What about RCV on a Nationwide level....

With EC Votes.
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Old 02-09-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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It would never fly constitutionally. People in a State that voted for candidate A will have been disenfranchised if their electoral votes were given to candidate B. Each State is a sovereign entity under the constitution. The people in California can't decide how the people in Wyoming vote nor the people in Texas how the people in Vermont vote. It is that simple. If folks in California think the people in Wyoming has an unfair advantage they can move to Wyoming for the voting benefit they seem to covet. And the people in TX can move to VT.

My guess is the folks in WY and VT don't want folks from CA (to WY) or TX (to VT) coming however.
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:06 AM
 
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This is a complete logical fallacy if you think it's responsive to the post you quoted.

But I am happy with ALL voters having a say, which means every vote being counted equally. Telling some people that their votes count less than the votes of other people isn't remotely fair yet for some reason, Conservatives are perfectly happy with it, because theirs are the votes which receive unfair advantage.
Nothing is preventing any voter from moving to a state that gives them more 'bang for their electoral buck' if that specific point is that important to them.

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As usual, GOPers follow the
I'm not a Republican, nor a Trump supporter, and there are plenty of people who respect how the founding fathers set up how we select a President who are also not Republicans and not Trump supporters.

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"I got mine, eff you" standard because they only care about themselves.
Good to know you have such a high opinion of our nation's founding fathers .
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:18 AM
 
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It would never fly constitutionally.
I don't see how it could be stopped. It's an ingenious end run around the Constitution. States currently aren't uniform in how the allocate their electoral votes, and that is allowed. The PVC is essentially an extension of that.

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People in a State that voted for candidate A will have been disenfranchised if their electoral votes were given to candidate B. Each State is a sovereign entity under the constitution. The people in California can't decide how the people in Wyoming vote nor the people in Texas how the people in Vermont vote. It is that simple. If folks in California think the people in Wyoming has an unfair advantage they can move to Wyoming for the voting benefit they seem to covet. And the people in TX can move to VT.

My guess is the folks in WY and VT don't want folks from CA (to WY) or TX (to VT) coming however.
Yep.

And every time I've noticed that mentioned in a thread on CD, I've pointed that out (including my previous post).
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