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Trump supporters are seen in a bad light because mainstream (aka opposition) media only highlights the negative and ignores the positive about them and the Trump administration. Kind of ironic that the smug liberals who think of themselves as informed are actually kept in the dark by their media which censors their news. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."
They are totally clueless which is why nearly a year later they are still in shock that Trump is President.
If you honestly believe what you typed. That makes you one of the biggest hypocrites on this site.
So how will the plight of the working class white man be solved when the establishment is "smashed"? Is Bannon going to make the white man the undisputed head of the household again, and provide jobs for everybody? I mean really, what is the end game?
That’s an intriguing question. Let’s stipulate, for the sake of discussion, that Bannon’s election-goals are fulfilled, speedily and thoroughly. Bannon-approved candidates sweep the Senate and House. Trump gets reelected in 2020, and Bannon-style Republicans extend their dominance of statehouses and governorships across the country. Let’s further suppose that these various personalities manage to set aside their internecine competitions, and work together.
OK, with the above – whether it be a dream, or a nightmare – where do we go? What would the resulting America look like? How would it differ from the present? What are some key legislative victories that would be envisioned? What are some key current policies, laws, regulations, programs and so forth, that would be abolished?
I’m genuinely curious. The point here isn’t to bash the Trump partisans, but to sincerely inquire: what, besides crushing Democrats and RINOs, does your hypothetical victory look like?
As a matter of fact, it'll be fun watching the entire Republican party implode. And after they WON everything! The presidency, the senate, and the house.
The Reps are regrouping with true conservatives and populists leading the way. RINOs gotta go! It should make the Reps stronger.
The Dems have disintegrated with infighting among moderates (DINOs) and Alt Left (aka Progressives). The whole political tree, Left and Right, is getting a good shaking, badly needed.
I think Bannon is going to find out exactly what Trump is right now. you can have half the country on your side or at lest enough to vote you in and DC still can't be cleaned up and made to do what is right for the country.
If Bannon is coming for the do nothing Republicans that "will pay" does that mean we are supposed to vote for a Dem?
Oh yeah that will teach them a lesson in 2018 and we will have even more Dems in power that will push to impeach Trump.
We are still and probably always will be a 2 party gov.
Nope. You know what I'm talking about. Don't play coy with me. Unless you've been living under a rock all these years, Trump's election was ALL ABOUT the rage of the "forgotten working stiff white guy" who feel that the "establishment" (rich white men) don't give a crap about them and that it's their fault minorities (affirmative action, immigration) and feminism (white women) took their jobs away and power,feeling ignored. So they blame the establishment (rich white men) and liberals (white women) for their problems.
I think one cannot attribute Trump's victory to any one factor.
Ignoring his fanbase for a minute, it's without question that people wanted a change after 8 years of Obama and Democrats in charge and Hilary Clinton didn't represent much change not to mention she was a horrible candidate to run. Don't forgot that we had 8 years of Clinton then 8 years of Bush then 8 years of Obama. American politics tends to swing like a pendulum.
As for Trump's core fans, statistics were crunched on them. They tend to be white, older and economically better off than Clinton voters. I don't think you can attribute their 'rage' to losing their job when most are retired on SS that the millennial generation may not hope to get. It seems their rage is to a changing demographic landscape. They want to keep America white because that's how they remember America. That's why Trump's positions on immigration (the wall, deport Muslims etc) have been his most popular. They don't seem to care for the other stuff.
I think one cannot attribute Trump's victory to any one factor.
Ignoring his fanbase for a minute, it's without question that people wanted a change after 8 years of Obama and Democrats in charge and Hilary Clinton didn't represent much change not to mention she was a horrible candidate to run. Don't forgot that we had 8 years of Clinton then 8 years of Bush then 8 years of Obama. American politics tends to swing like a pendulum.
Good point. Hillary Clinton was to Obama, as GHW Bush was to Reagan. Reagan comes in, according to the popular narrative, to reverse or at least attenuate economic damages felt during the Carter administration. Whether or not said damages were Carter's fault, he took the blame, and Reagan emerged as the successful change-agent. Persistent good feelings, plus a weak opposition candidate, led to Papa Bush's election. Bush the son may or may not be analogous to Carter, but the changes brought by Obama, however healing and salubrious for the financial markets, didn't sufficiently help the broader society. That, together with a weak candidate (perhaps Hillary is analogous to Dukakis? Remember Dukakis?), vitiated enthusiasm for "Obama's 3rd term".
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They want to keep America white because that's how they remember America. That's why Trump's positions on immigration (the wall, deport Muslims etc) have been his most popular. They don't seem to care for the other stuff.
It is indeed intriguing, how the more vehement Trump partisans on this forum are less concerned about taxes, healthcare, infrastructure, investment, schools and the like - than they are about immigration, Muslims, the wall and trade-barriers.
The Wall Street Journal's editorial board is envisioning Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) as the "antidote" to former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon. In an editorial published late Sunday, the paper's editors said it was ironic that a press corps that "claims to loathe right-wing political operative Steve Bannon can't get enough of him."
It sounds like Graham has gotten the implied threat that Bannon has made in telling the Reps to start getting some work done or they will be replaced. Meanwhile, watch Bannon's speech that got Graham's attention.
If you think the American political landscape is going to change in any significant way because Trump and Bannon decided it wasn't to their liking, you are living in some sort of weird Fantasyland. Most people see Bannon as a racist turd attempting to push a nationalist, Nazi-esque agenda that they just don't have the stomach for. There are far more people that would be hurt by their agenda than there are those who would benefit by it.
You just don't have the numbers anymore. The handful of people getting behind these two clowns aren't nearly enough to change anything. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Trump won because of people who wouldn't normally vote for a Republican crossed over to give the non-politician a shot. Now that everyone has seen first hand how disastrous that turned out to be they won't be making the same mistake twice.
Who's living in a Fantasy land?
I hate to tell you, but there are more than a few people who agree with and support Trump, Bannon, and the agenda. How do you think Judge Roy Moore won? Dumb luck?
Bannon is anything but racist ...but you Leftists like to throw that term around at anyone you disagree with. It isn't working, and neither is the "Nazi" or "white supremacist" allegation, which are Leftist. The Nazis were the "National Socialist Party." When did socialism become "right-wing?" Nazism has always been left-wing, as has fascism.
"Crazy" might be a term I would use to describe your thinking.
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