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Old 11-14-2017, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Of course they can. Body parts don't determine who you are.
Of course body parts don't determine who you are, but most look at this from the biology of the genitalia. There are "deviations" from the norm, thus often the word "deviant" being used in a negative way, when it simply means a "deviation" from the norm. Statistics and Probability.

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Chromosomes do, however.
Here is the thing with that, while they do, there are more variations than just XX and XY. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_disorders It is quite interesting if anyone wants to look into all the possibilities. I had thought the only variation was hermaphrodites, but no, and I was wrong in thinking that testing would clear up the matter. If sometimes it is simply a physical deviation, why couldn't it have mental/brain/neurological that can't be measured deviations also?

From the moment of conception, so many miraculous things occur in the womb, some deviations could be expected.

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They determine what you are, not who you are.

If you see yourself as nothing more than walking, talking genitalia, that's on you. I am so much more than the some of my parts.
I am sure you are much more than the some of your parts, but all too often today, in politics, "identity" politics are being used, and it is harming us. Just like in this case, it appears many want to make it not about the woman being the better candidate, but about the political issue of transgendered. Many have indicated, I didn't follow that election, that she was the better candidate. It is not surprising to me that she won as the better candidate. I would hope they didn't vote for her to spite the other (and he sounds like a horse's butt) but because they felt she would best represent them.

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I hope that one day - we won't even care about the sex of the person who wins. Let the smartest, best candidate win.

It seems to me ~ she did, in this case.
Yes, that is the way it should be. It appears she was the best candidate from what I have just recently read.

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Congratulations to the "Trans Woman". the OP's label. Im not sure that she won't only because of her trans gender status. More likely sure to her position on all the issues that concern the people in Virginia.
Yes, dropping the whole identity politics would be a winner to me. Let people win on their job-related merits, not the package they come in.

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Not really, some babies are born with both. It's how you feel mentally that truly determines who your are.
Who you are and your sex, gender, whatever someone wants to call it are two very different things. I don't think we should make the physical packaging of a candidate for any position the priority, although many have and will.

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From what I can remember from her campaign, she never broached the issue of her orientation. Marshall did and used it in a negative way in the campaign. She tried as much as possible to keep that out of things and kept steering to the issues. A big one of which was the traffic congestion on Rt. 28 in Manassas, VA. That is an important issue to those constituents--one that Marshall would never address. On top of that, people in general are growing tired of intolerance and Marshall had it in spades.
It sounded like he needed to go. If she didn't bring up, I suspect most voters didn't dwell on it either.

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Be proud VA, electing a mentally ill shemale is... something.
Well, first of all, I doubt you know what a "shemale" is. You might start by learning what the word is. (If watching porn, which I don't do, I could see one might be confused.)

"3 Mental Health Issues Facing Transgender People and How to Help" by Austen Hartke - The Salt Collective

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Oh, yes one can.

Nature isn't all that cut and dried.
No, nature isn't. There are many deviations possible.

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Whose definition?

Babies are born every year with both sets of body parts, a mixture of parts, and sometimes, none at all.

There are entire species that can be male one day and female the next. There are other species that begin life as one sex, and end as the other.

All the above is factual, with lots of supporting evidence, old and new.
Well, in the case of humans, I haven't heard of anyone waking up at some point in their life and being the other sex.

I do fear we will see more of this as time goes on. The human race is flaming out.

Humans are so complicated, and as I said, so many miraculous things happen to a baby in the womb, so many variables in play.

I feel it is unfortunate that anyone would hint that this woman has won because of what the man had said about himself. Why can't it just be a victory because she was an outstanding candidate?

I am a Trump supporter, and I also get tired of ALL Trump supporters being lumped together, but that appears to be the way many liberals function, "identity" politics, but that should put my POTUS in office for another 4 in 2020!
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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Transgender women are men.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Two Biological Sexes: XY and XX. Other than that, it doesn't count. Hey, if a guy wants to put a dress on and a wig, so be it. Still got the male genitalia. Same with female who wanna be men. Either way, they are still the same sex they were born with. That won't change.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Two Biological Sexes: XY and XX. Other than that, it doesn't count. Hey, if a guy wants to put a dress on and a wig, so be it. Still got the male genitalia. Same with female who wanna be men. Either way, they are still the same sex they were born with. That won't change.

Damn skippy big boss man!

The world doesn't need these biology deniers telling us what horrible people we are for believing in science.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Damn skippy big boss man!

The world doesn't need these biology deniers telling us what horrible people we are for believing in science.
Well, science says there are two biological genders.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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Well, science says there are two biological genders.

yeah but when dealing with liberals facts don't matter; only personal subjective feelings do
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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yeah but when dealing with liberals facts don't matter; only personal subjective feelings do
Its hypocritical cause they say Trump denies science for not believing in climate change, but they deny science for not seeing that there are only two biological genders.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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That is awesome. I think since Trump has unmasked the alt-right and brought forth their racism and bigotry for all the country to see, people are fighting back against it, and will continue to do so.
In this case, as someone who voted for her, it really wasn't about bathroom designations or any other type of identity issues, it was all about an ugly little road called Route 28 and the smug crook who had owned that office for so long catering to his pals at the expense of his constitutes. She could have identified as a dancing iguana who wanted heat lamps in every public bathroom and I still would have voted for her. While individual voting decisions can indeed be all about a single issue, it doesn't mean all the voters are focusing on the same single issue.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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In this case, as someone who voted for her, it really wasn't about bathroom designations or any other type of identity issues, it was all about an ugly little road called Route 28 and the smug crook who had owned that office for so long catering to his pals at the expense of his constitutes. She could have identified as a dancing iguana who wanted heat lamps in every public bathroom and I still would have voted for her. While individual voting decisions can indeed be all about a single issue, it doesn't mean all the voters are focusing on the same single issue.

you mean voted for him
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Old 12-21-2017, 04:28 AM
 
Location: From Denver, CO to Hong Kong China
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what matters is that the conservative Republican has lost to a transsexual liberal .... it's like the alpha male of the School beaten up by the nerd ... and as far as the studants screams shame, shame, shame
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