Meet STANLEY! (Obama's mum) (thought, accuse, FBI, revolution)

[expat007]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Yes, I do. I was raised in a more stable environment.

To say that we are not influenced by the people and the environment around us is silly;


To say you know who you are, means you have lived a sheltered life, unwilling and open to possibilities

[teatime]

Honestly, when I read about Obama's childhood I felt really badly for him. The child was abandoned by his father (the Trib story says Barack Sr. never even ASKED about his son when friends went to visit him in Kenya), his mother then married an Indonesian man who was reportedly a drunk and carted off the poor kid to Jakarta. He switched schools a lot and then was sent back to live with his grandparents. Now he is saying that the grandmother hurt him by uttering racist slurs. We don't know if it's true or not because the campaign refuses to provide journalists with access to the grandmother.

What a horrible way to grow up!

[bentlebee]

Originally Posted by teatime

Honestly, when I read about Obama's childhood I felt really badly for him. The child was abandoned by his father (the Trib story says Barack Sr. never even ASKED about his son when friends went to visit him in Kenya), his mother then married an Indonesian man who was reportedly a drunk and carted off the poor kid to Jakarta. He switched schools a lot and then was sent back to live with his grandparents. Now he is saying that the grandmother hurt him by uttering racist slurs. We don't know if it's true or not because the campaign refuses to provide journalists with access to the grandmother.

What a horrible way to grow up!

So we get a mental patient to run for the presidency. Poor guy. My grand mother never even mentioned seeing a black man walking in the street and being scared and she had at one point tenants in her house renting a room from other another race.
So obama got the poor judgment from his mom. Oh i understand...poor guy.

[flindras]

[quote=miu;3191029]But her method of mothering inspired him to write these rather angry passages against his "mother's race". Doesn't that disturb you at all?

No. Not at all. I can speak as a white woman who was married to a black man - the father of my four children. All my children went through this phase trying to shape their own identity - just as all teenagers rebel in other ways. I see how Obama turned out; I see how my kids turned out: One a lawyer, one a teacher, one in finance and the last a paraprofessional. So I think I can speak to this a little better than you.

It really doesn't sound like she was very good at being a mother. Not if she chose to move back to Indonesia and leave Barack to be raised by her parents.

You can't make this type of judgment. The more important issue is Obama loved his mother as he has indicated several times and has excelled in school, profession and in life, with class. It is obvious how much influence she had on him. So I disagree completely.

[flindras]

Originally Posted by bentlebee

So we get a mental patient to run for the presidency. Poor guy. My grand mother never even mentioned seeing a black man walking in the street and being scared and she had at one point tenants in her house renting a room from other another race.
So obama got the poor judgment from his mom. Oh i understand...poor guy.

I feel so fortunate that I was interracially married because it gave me so much of an understanding I would not have had or known otherwise. My own brother-in-law told me how his mother said, You have to be better. People are afraid of 'Negroes' and if you are ever on a street, and there is a white woman, and it's only you two, you'd better flee, because she will be scared and call out and you'll be blamed for it."

You will never, ever understand.

[miu]

Originally Posted by flindras

It sounds like Obama's father abandoned him, but he rationalized it as being either his mother's fault or the white man's fault. At least your four children have had a stable two parent environment. The father of your children was always in contact with them, right? After the age of 3, Obama never saw his dad again. Then his stepfather was Indonesian.

I am full blooded Chinese and my stepfather is Caucasian. I never went through any periods of issues with my racial identity. And I never got mad at my white stepdad for replacing my Chinese father. And neither did my two sisters.

Originally Posted by flindras

If he loved his mother consistently, then why did he write those angry hatefilled comments about her race, and his not being of the same race as her, and negative things about the white race in general? Obama was 34 years of age when that book was published. At 34 years old, you can't use youthful rebellion as an excuse for those sentiments of his.

[johnherrera305]

Originally Posted by bentlebee

So we get a mental patient to run for the presidency. Poor guy. My grand mother never even mentioned seeing a black man walking in the street and being scared and she had at one point tenants in her house renting a room from other another race.
So obama got the poor judgment from his mom. Oh i understand...poor guy.

Poor judgment. OK..Hillary voting to authorized the war in Iraq wasn't poor judgment?

[teatime]

Originally Posted by flindras

I feel so fortunate that I was interracially married because it gave me so much of an understanding I would not have had or known otherwise. My own brother-in-law told me how his mother said, You have to be better. People are afraid of 'Negroes' and if you are ever on a street, and there is a white woman, and it's only you two, you'd better flee, because she will be scared and call out and you'll be blamed for it."

You will never, ever understand.

You're right. I don't understand -- I have NEVER been scared because a black person was nearby, let alone "called out." I've been at parties, on buses, and in areas where I was the ONLY white person and I didn't view the people around me as "scary."

I'm 43 -- are you talking about the 1940s or 1950s?! Sheesh...

[flindras]

It's not about you.

[teatime]

Originally Posted by flindras

It's not about you.

Then quit making general statements painting ALL of us as fearful ninnies.