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Old 01-22-2018, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Scott is popular but Nelson is popular too, trump and his government are very unpopular now in Florida, this damages the republican ambitions in the state and we can not forget that florida is receiving many new voters. All this people coming from puerto rico .. I would not have so much sure that the GOP will do well in the state
Scott should be in jail and everyone knows it.

He's anti-environment, which is really stupid in FL where the water has already begun rising. He'll get the religious right northern FL vote, but he is not popular in South FL, where he is seen as a phony politician who barely avoided jail time for ripping off Medicare.

That drilling stunt he and Trump just pulled will not help him either. He's never spoken out against drilling and couldn't care less about our environment. Nelson has opposed drilling for years and years.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Arpaio = Moore. Does the GOP learn that lesson or not? (The (D)'s have not learned any).

Not close. Arpaio won many times in Az with ease, and has none of the baggage regarding relationships Moore had.

This is the same style premature celebration Dems were having over HRC 14 months ago.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Not close. Arpaio won many times in Az with ease, and has none of the baggage regarding relationships Moore had.
Moore had won previously also.

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This is the same style premature celebration Dems were having over HRC 14 months ago.
I thought Trump had a chance as I saw him possibly winning PA and Michigan. Besides that, I am not a (D) so whatever they did is irrelevant to what I have to say.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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Moore had won previously also.

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Not as easily. Arpaio could easily have been Az governor, had he chosen that path.

He has been consistently underestimated, and won anyway, many times.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:52 PM
 
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I thought Trump had a chance as I saw him possibly winning PA and Michigan. Besides that, I am not a (D) so whatever they did is irrelevant to what I have to say.
I knew he would win, when it tightened up. But I was amongst the few who knew 51 elections were taking place, not 1.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Not close. Arpaio won many times in Az with ease, and has none of the baggage regarding relationships Moore had.

This is the same style premature celebration Dems were having over HRC 14 months ago.
Arpaio was beaten really badly last time in Maricopa County. If he can't win there he can't win anywhere in AZ.

Moore had also won in AL with ease.

If anything Arpaio has even worse baggage than Moore. If Arpaio gets the nomination than Sinema wins by a landslide. (OTOH if McSally wins the primary it becomes a closer race)
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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Not as easily. Arpaio could easily have been Az governor, had he chosen that path.

He has been consistently underestimated, and won anyway, many times.
Arpaio had weak opponents in all but his last race.

Once he actually had a strong opponent he withered.

My Scottsdale friends have told me stories about Arpaio that make the charges against Moore seem trivial. In a US Senate election those stories would come out
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Aside from his questionable history, Joe Arpaio is 85 years old. Are the voters of Arizona really going to elect a senator who would be in his 90s at the end of his term? It seems like Republicans have a far more credible candidate with Martha McSally, who won her House race in a district that voted for Clinton at the same time Arpaio lost his sheriff's race in the state's largest county, despite Trump winning there.

Moreover, Kyrsten Sinema has departed from the Democratic party line periodically voting in the House which isn't a bad move for getting crossover support in a state that is still a little on the red side. I think she certainly has potential but the way the Republican primary plays out will be an important factor.

Remember that 2010 wasn't a repeat of 2008, nor was 2014 a repeat of 2012. So looking too closely at the 2016 results to project the 2018 outcomes probably isn't a great idea either.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:31 PM
 
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McCaskill is all but gone; Missouri is now a very red state.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:33 PM
 
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Arpaio = Moore. Does the GOP learn that lesson or not? (The (D)'s have not learned any).
McSally will win AZ Republican Primary.
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