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If Al Gore would have won in both 2000 and 2004 (he would have run again in 2004 if he had won in 2000), would Donald Trump have been able to win the GOP nomination and U.S. Presidency on a White nationalist platform in 2008?
What are your thoughts on this? Specifically, would the 2008 climate in the Republican Party after two years of an Al Gore Presidency have been enough for a White nationalist such as Donald Trump to win the GOP nomination in 2008?
As for my own thoughts on this, I suspect that Donald Trump--had he actually run in 2008 in this scenario--would not have won the GOP nomination in 2008 in this scenario. Basically, I think that a President Gore would have made more efforts to appeal to White working-class voters like Bill Clinton did. In contrast, many White working-class voters appear to have felt that they were ignored under President Obama--especially after 2012. Indeed, I just don't see identity politics becoming quite as strong in the U.S. by 2007-2008 in a Gore-wins-in-2000-and-2004 scenario.
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If Al Gore would have won in both 2000 and 2004 (he would have run again in 2004 if he had won in 2000), would Donald Trump have been able to win the GOP nomination and U.S. Presidency on a White nationalist platform in 2008?
What are your thoughts on this? Specifically, would the 2008 climate in the Republican Party after two years of an Al Gore Presidency have been enough for a White nationalist such as Donald Trump to win the GOP nomination in 2008?
As for my own thoughts on this, I suspect that Donald Trump--had he actually run in 2008 in this scenario--would not have won the GOP nomination in 2008 in this scenario. Basically, I think that a President Gore would have made more efforts to appeal to White working-class voters like Bill Clinton did. In contrast, many White working-class voters appear to have felt that they were ignored under President Obama--especially after 2012. Indeed, I just don't see identity politics becoming quite as strong in the U.S. by 2007-2008 in a Gore-wins-in-2000-and-2004 scenario.
Anyway, any thoughts on this?
I think US history would be completely different, and for the better had Gore won in 2000. I was just too young to vote for him, but it didn't matter anyways, because I was still living in New York in 2000, and he won the state
If Al Gore would have won in both 2000 and 2004 (he would have run again in 2004 if he had won in 2000), would Donald Trump have been able to win the GOP nomination and U.S. Presidency on a White nationalist platform in 2008?
What are your thoughts on this? Specifically, would the 2008 climate in the Republican Party after two years of an Al Gore Presidency have been enough for a White nationalist such as Donald Trump to win the GOP nomination in 2008?
As for my own thoughts on this, I suspect that Donald Trump--had he actually run in 2008 in this scenario--would not have won the GOP nomination in 2008 in this scenario. Basically, I think that a President Gore would have made more efforts to appeal to White working-class voters like Bill Clinton did. In contrast, many White working-class voters appear to have felt that they were ignored under President Obama--especially after 2012. Indeed, I just don't see identity politics becoming quite as strong in the U.S. by 2007-2008 in a Gore-wins-in-2000-and-2004 scenario.
Anyway, any thoughts on this?
Probably not but I am not sure the reason for your post. It is a what if and there are always What ifs. They mean nothing.
I don't know. who does? but I'm quite sure if Romney had beat Obama in 2012 there would be no trump. trump was a clenched fist pound on the desk response by American voters to Obama's increasingly PC progressive BS and the threat of a third term of such policies with Clinton.
I don't know. who does? but I'm quite sure if Romney had beat Obama in 2012 there would be no trump. trump was a clenched fist pound on the desk response by American voters to Obama's increasingly PC progressive BS and the threat of a third term of such policies with Clinton.
Yes, no one wanted a third term but there was nothing progressive about Obama nor Hillary.
If Gore won in 2000, he wouldn't have won in 04. Political parties rarely go for four straight terms. I think the main thing would be that we never invaded Iraq, Afghanistan due to 9/11 still would have happened though, the Dot.com bubble related recession would have still happened as well.
Al Gore was a con-man looking out for himself. His whole "global warming" shtick was an effort to force/con people into putting money into his carbon trading scam, and money in his pocket. All while he jets about on private planes and lives in a mansion with 20X the carbon footprint of the average American home. In 2000, not a lot of that was widely known (we were too much in awe for him inventing the internet), but by 2004 that game was worn out-no way he'd have gotten two terms.
As far as his performance as a president, I doubt that Gore would have been any more effective than Obama. In his career, Gore never has distinguished himself as a senator. His nutty climate change actions would likely have participated the "great recession" years earlier, and made it even deeper. His actions to destroy American jobs would have been every bit as damaging as Obama.
In that light-I think America would have been more than ready for a business leader to provide some leadership and vision for this country. Trump? Maybe. The tough thing then is that the MSM had more of a lock on political propaganda than they do now. The alternative media was much more in it's infancy. Would the constant lies, distortions and bias of the media have been as effectively countered in 2004 as in 2016? Tough call, but possibly. I think someone like Mitt Romney would have had a much better chance in those days. Even in '04 the MSM was somewhat more restrained in their bias and still actually pretended to be a viable news source. By 2012 that was a thing of the past.
But, without time to find more dead people to vote for Gore in 2000...we'll never know.
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