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Old 03-12-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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Wasn't there a report recently about PA illegals voting? Something like 100,000, often multiple times even after they've been warned. The problem is law enforcement doesn't ENFORCE THE LAW. Make visible examples of them by deporting and the voting will stop.

Now, about the dead voting...
100,000, you say? This is the first I've heard of it.

Of course you have links to back this claim up, right?
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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Umm, no there wasn't....
Google this: 100000 pa voter fraud

Then look at the tripe publishing it.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:42 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Mine are generally backed up by facts, not cultist beliefs, whereas yours are either based on you tube, obscure websites, or just a product of your vivid imagination.
What "obscure Website"? I didn't reference any Website, so please tell me which Websites you are referring to.

Youtube offers actual clips from broadcast news from every network. It features clips of actual statements from political pundits and politicians. It allows us to hear their actual words, not just what has been transcribed in a reporters article.

I told you, I based this on what has been reported and the words of elected officials themselves, who, in the case of California, have openly expressed their opinion that they believe non-citizens (some who are here illegally) should be allowed to vote. They say they "pay taxes, and add to our economy, and therefore should be allowed to vote."

In California, now declaring itself a "sanctuary state" (in violation of the Constitution), the only thing needed to vote is a CA drivers license. And they are passing those out to anyone who wants one. There is no requirement to prove citizenship. All that is required is that they check a box that they are a citizen. No verification is required. What could go wrong? Every non-citizen will check the correct box, right? None will lie. If you believe that, you're clearly delusional.

California is protecting illegal aliens and even warning them when Federal agents are on the way. They are "harboring" people known to be in the country illegally, in violation of law. What makes you think they wouldn't also allow these people to vote, in accordance with their stated beliefs (as noted above)?

All we need to do is listen to Nancy Pelosi's words on the floor of the house to understand where she stands on this issue. She would have no problem with illegals (she likes to call them, "dreamers") voting in our elections. A California drivers license facilitates this. They need not prove they are qualified to vote. And here's why:
"The California Department of Motor Vehicles now will be required by law to forward the records of all licensed drivers to California Secretary of State Alex Padilla’s office to be automatically registered to vote unless a driver purposefully opts out at the DMV."
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I told you, I based this on what has been reported and the words of elected officials themselves, who, in the case of California, have openly expressed their opinion that they believe non-citizens (some who are here illegally) should be allowed to vote. They say they "pay taxes, and add to our economy, and therefore should be allowed to vote."
Just because somebody says that non-citizens should be able to vote, does not mean that non-citizens actually vote.

I could say that tatoos should be illegal. Doesn't mean they are. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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When threads are started based on outright lies and the mindless fabrications of the OP, the OP should be banned.
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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How many times does this have to be debunked? Licenses issued to illegals in California are different than those used for citizens to vote. First of all, there’s a different code on the licenses of illegals that separate them from drivers who are legal voters. Secondly, there is a list generated by DMV of legal voters by that’s sent to the board of elections as a cross check. These licenses cannot be used to vote, no matter how many times the same lies are spread on the same nut job websites. Even the Weekly Standard has called it a total lie.

Has anyone else noticed that when a poster resorts to using “We the People” in their text, it’s almost invariably a crackpot?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ca...tor-voter-act/

No, California didn

Fact Check: Is California Registering Illegal Aliens as Democratic Voters? | The Weekly Standard
snopes isn't the last word for sure and most realize they lean left. As for drivers license and voting: Of course it is easier for those illegal or otherwise to vote. I don't think it is a secret illegals do vote. Do all of them or even a majority of them? Obviously not, but none should be allowed to cast a ballot for any reason. And super close checks should be done especially in districts where illegals are highly suspected of voting.
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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When threads are started based on outright lies and the mindless fabrications of the OP, the OP should be banned.
wow and do you think that would solve any problems? It is pretty hard to prove when a post is an outright lie. In this case it is a matter of how one interprets what was being said and why? How about all those who post here based on a video they saw on UTube? Anyone with a working brain knows that a huge majority of UTubes are just made up and yet people post them all the time. Yes, there are a lot of posters that should be banned but not for what you are suggesting. It sounds more like you don't like the OP and his views.
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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snopes isn't the last word for sure and most realize they lean left. As for drivers license and voting: Of course it is easier for those illegal or otherwise to vote. I don't think it is a secret illegals do vote. Do all of them or even a majority of them? Obviously not, but none should be allowed to cast a ballot for any reason. And super close checks should be done especially in districts where illegals are highly suspected of voting.
Nita, when Snopes, Politifact and the Weekly Standard, which certainly isn’t left leaning, all say that it’s a lie, it’s a lie.

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Old 03-15-2018, 06:55 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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When threads are started based on outright lies and the mindless fabrications of the OP, the OP should be banned.
What lies and "fabrications?"

Is a drivers license accepted as voter ID? In most states, "yes."

Are drivers licenses being issued to illegals and legal non-citizens? "Yes."

Are illegals being required to show proof of citizenship when applying for a licenses? "NO!" All that is required is that they check a box! No verification is required.

None of the above is a "fabrication" or a lie. And now we have laws that will automatically register those people who apply for a license with the registrar of voters. No verification of citizenship required.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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