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Old 03-15-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Uh, maybe because he wants to represent his district?
The question was why do people not in her district care. I noted why. People in Lamb's district care, he listened and he won. It's odd how so many politicians can't grasp that concept.

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In the end - especially as part of a slow change (we'll get there), there is nothing wrong with insurance companies doing the admin. However, the ACA limited the profits for all the admin overheard to approx. 15% instead of "unlimited".

Even in a best case it would cost 6-8% to admin such a program.

We are not currently being held back by pharma or insurance companies. We are being held back by the GOP. Simple.
Record profits.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/05/top-...n-dollars.html
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Old 03-15-2018, 02:54 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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In the end - especially as part of a slow change (we'll get there), there is nothing wrong with insurance companies doing the admin. However, the ACA limited the profits for all the admin overheard to approx. 15% instead of "unlimited".

Even in a best case it would cost 6-8% to admin such a program.

We are not currently being held back by pharma or insurance companies. We are being held back by the GOP. Simple.
Are you aware that private insurance companies do the admin for Medicare?

Where do you get the 6-8% figure?
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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We are not currently being held back by pharma or insurance companies. We are being held back by the GOP. Simple.
Also I should note, when some tried to allow people to import less expensive drugs from Canada it was killed with bipartisan support. Most notably by Cory Booker.
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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Lots of GOPers telling themselves lots of fairy tales today, I guess they didn't get much sleep last night so they are trying to pretend a whole lot of not real things to make themselves feel better.

The reality is that Lamb won, there aren't enough outstanding votes to change that. But it doesn't even matter. This was a Trump +20 district in 2016. The fact that it's now 50/50 means that the GOP lost BIGLY regardless of who gets a few months in Congress before the 2018 election - where it's likely both of these candidates will be running again but not against each other.
There has been a lot of eyes tightly closed while clicking the heels of their Republican red ruby slippers to no avail.

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Old 03-15-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: sumter
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Why did Lamb feel the need to run from Pelosi? (he wouldn't have won if he had backed Pelosi also)
The real question is, why did so many people in a predominantly republican, and predominantly white district didn't support Trump this time around. Buyers remorse perhaps? Trump and his antics have turned lots of people off who voted for him in 2016.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:20 PM
 
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The real question is, why did so many people in a predominantly republican, and predominantly white district didn't support Trump this time around. Buyers remorse perhaps? Trump and his antics have turned lots of people off who voted for him in 2016.
I do not care why people did not support Trump. I want someone I can support, not someone to be against.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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A lot of Trump supporters are seeing how much of a hypocrite Trump is and so they decided to give Lamb their vote. Lamb winning is a bad sign for Republicans in 2018 and for Trump in 2020.
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:52 PM
 
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Default Conor Lamb did NOT run as a conservative

<<Lamb absolutely ran as a conservative Democrat, but that is far from being an actual conservative. To wit:

Lamb wants to keep the Affordable Care Act in place. His opponent, Rick Saccone, wants it repealed.

Lamb blasted the GOP tax plan as “giveaway” to the rich. His opponent supports the plan.

Lamb said that he personally opposes abortion but that he doesn't think the right to have one should be taken away. His opponent flatly opposes abortion rights.

Lamb wants to strengthen background checks for gun sales, although he doesn't think there should be new restrictions on guns.

Lamb supports Trump's tariffs on steel and aluminum, even though GOP leaders including Ryan oppose them.>>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b131f6d93ea9
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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I'll work with anyone from either party who wants to help people with pre-existing conditions, improve the quality of care, and reduce premiums, out-of-pocket costs, and prescription drug prices," he says on his campaign website.

Obamacare addressed one of those things. It did nothing for the rest so he can't support Obamacare.
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Old 03-16-2018, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I'll work with anyone from either party who wants to help people with pre-existing conditions, improve the quality of care, and reduce premiums, out-of-pocket costs, and prescription drug prices," he says on his campaign website.

Obamacare addressed one of those things. It did nothing for the rest so he can't support Obamacare.
Lamb is particularly concerned about veteran's health problems. Pennsylvania has a lot of vets.
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