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Not even remotely in the same time zone as "decent." He's as much of a monster as any of them; he's just a lot slicker at hiding it by making himself seem moderate in comparison to shameless sociopaths like Ryan, McConnell, and the Trump creature.
Kasich is a union-busting, anti-environment, anti-public education, big-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-higher-taxes-for-the-poor, anti-regulation, anti-abortion, vote-supressing homophobe. A competent Democratic candidate should be able to shred his moderate facade.
On the bold above, these are the reasons why many Trump supporting conservatives would support him lol.
Will note on environmentalism, he isn't as anti-environment as he used to be considering all the issues we are having with our waterways in Ohio. He's actually started to really pay attention to these issues and stop being so wilfully ignorant about them.
But all of the other things are pluses for him with conservatives and if he beats Trump in a primary and runs, he'd win the state of Ohio rather easily, which is usually a highly contested state that no president has lost in the past 50 years. However Ohio goes, so goes the presidency.
I'll note I don't think that Kasich is a moderate. He definately is not. He is actually a true conservative, unlike Trump, Ryan, or McConnell and for many conservatives, he is very appealing due to this.
Its impossible to beat Trump in an election of any kind once Kim bends over in May (and Kim is already begging China for help).
Trump will be remembered as the symbol of world peace.
The world will take back ownership of America if Kasich becomes President.
He should get Nobel prize for peace and you for Fiction.
John Kasich is a Legend in his Own Mind.
He ONLY won ONE STATE (the State of Ohio, where he is Governor) in the 2016 Primary and he by a fairly small margin.
Despite his poor showing in debates and the 2016 Primary - John insisted right up to the end that HE would be the Republican Candidate for President. There is nothing "uniting" about Kasich.
He has burned all his bridges in the Republican Party - he will have to depend on George Soros funding for a run against President Trump.
this topic is a joke.....Kasich is in the same mold like W Bush and Jeb Bush....no way that is coming back in 2020.
Kasich is like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Not too popular outside of their state with the party.
He is for open borders, expanding NAFTA and for TPP and continuing the same neocon foreign policies of endless and endless occupations. He is for common core like the Bushes.
The Republican party doesn't want him and either does democrats since he is pro-life and no way in hell Democrats will support a pro-life Republican on anything even if he is a RINO.
Good description of Kasich and agree he is just another Bush type establishment average {R} on the national stage. It is already known that he would carry out the neo con foreign policy and be a big spender to feed the MIC.
I will say that Kasich has been the best Gov in Ohio in my lifetime and he also has a good legislative record when he was a rep. He is a policy wonk much like Bill Clinton and I could see him bringing moderates from both sides together.
I have voted for Kasich in the past but would not support him if he ran for POTUS, I refuse to vote for war mongers from any side. I was against the Iraq war before it started and watched family and friends turn pro war and now they do not talk about it.
I've stated since Trump's election that I think Kasich will primary him and I honestly do believe if there is a primary between only Kasich and Trump that Kasich can beat him.
I live in Ohio and don't like everything about Kasich but have voted for him in our last gubernatorial election. Interestingly the main thing I dislike about him is his stance on abortion (he is VERY anti-abortion). Me being an independent and knowing what issues are of importance to both liberals and conservatives, I know that conservatives will love this about him.
I've never considered Kasich to be a "moster" as someone mentioned above. However, I do think he has come into more of a polished public leader in that he understands that it is better to not be combative and polarizing if you want to get anything done in government. He used to be more dog headed on certain issues but is not anymore and that has been what has gotten him more support in our state.
If he runs in a GOP primary, I would definitely vote for him. He is a sane, calm, competent leader and I would trust him to actually govern well versus Trump. The fact that he'd fill all his positions in a regular amount of time with qualified peopled and not fire someone every month is reason enough to vote for him.
Kasich can beat Trump in a GOP primary on what? Kasich is for open borders, amnesty, pro-TPP and pro-Nafta. He is a NEOCON in foreign policy and a continuation of the Bush doctrine in the Middle East. You think the majority in the Republican party and red states want to return to the Bush years? You call that a sane, calm, competent leader? We call that a RINO, globalist, neocon, corporate establishment sellout.
He voted for the Bill Clinton and the Democrat's assault weapons ban in 1994 and then when that wasn't popular with the country when it passed he flip-flopped and became pro-gun rights and now he is talking like a Democrat using terms like “common sense gun laws”. He goes where the wind blows. He goes on CNN (a lot) and talks like a Democrat on gun control and immigration. (that doesn't fly with Republicans if Kasich wants to win the GOP nomination in 2020, he has no shot)
Trump fires people that he thinks are not getting the job done or fast enough compared to Kasich who will put swamp people in who have been establishment for life and nothing gets done. How does that make Kasich better?
You anti-Trumps in the GOP failed in 2016 and will fail big time in 2020.
Republicans will NEVER forget how Kasich never endorsed Trump over Hillary in 2016 and didn't even showed up at the GOP convention when it was his own state hosting it and he would rather have Hillary Clinton win the election and tilt the Supreme Court liberal for decades. If you think he wasn't popular in the GOP before that, wait until he challenges an incumbent GOP president in 2020 to tilt the election for the Democrats, yeah I'm sure that's going to go really well with Republicans.
All Republicans knows that when you challenge an incumbent President of your party, that party loses in the general election. Democrats know this also, they learned their lesson with Ted Kennedy and President Carter in 1980 and a reason Bill Clinton and Obama were never challenged on their re-election and won. So why would Republicans sellout for a RINO like Kasich and hand over the 2020 elections to the Democrats?
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Six minutes in, and I still don't have a clue what he's talking about. It might be nice if he could finish a sentence. He hasn't completed a thought before he jumps to another.
So, this guy (I have no idea who he is) has a studio in his garage. Great. I had a Leftist here on City-Data tell me not too long ago that he couldn't take anyone seriously that broadcast from her home or hotel room (as was the case). Didn't matter that the person had an nationally syndicated radio show. Modern technology makes it possible for a person to do that, I told the poster. Didn't matter. He wasn't going to take her seriously. So, is anyone going to take this guy seriously?
As for Kasich (my governor), in 2016 he was like a bad cold that refused to go away. Now he thinks he might try again? He got no traction in 2016. What does he think has changed? He's still the same guy. He's a liberal, basically, but claims to be "fiscally conservative." I'm not going to buy that. It's the "social" part (or should I say, socialism) that is the problem, and Kasich is a "progressive."
Kasich seems really nervous here. I wonder why?
So, he's claiming the "populist" mantle. Well, golly gee ...that's what Trump is, a populist, as was Reagan. "We didn't listen much to [Republicans]" His Uncle Harry was a Republican, who he said they didn't listen to much. So, he grew up a "God fearing" Democrat! Lot's of Democrat friends in Washington, he says. Do we need this guy?
Boy, this guy is confused, and he is confusing. He doesn't even know what kind of government we have. "Representative Democracy?" What is that? No, we are a Constitutional Republic! Where did he go to school?
He's afraid to say where our values come from. He thinks that Muslims share our views. This shows his lack of knowledge of what Islam is vs. Christianity. This scares me. The two are mutually exclusive. Islam and Christianity cannot co-exist, and neither can Islam co-exist with our Constitutional Republic. Islam is an authoritarian system. it is more than a religion. It is a theocratic form of government. Apparently Kasich doesn't know this.
He doesn't know that the Founders never used the term, "separation of church and state." He doesn't know that the so-called "separation clause" was to protect the church from "the hand of government," and that it came from The 1100 Charter of Liberties," which said "The Holy Church of God will be free from the hand of government."
He calls Donald Trump a "negative populist." Is that what bringing people together to "Make America Great Again" is? Trump appealed what the majority of Americans believe and want. They want to be free from the "hand of government." They want America preserved for their children and grand children. They don't want our culture to become the culture of foreigners bringing with them their anti-western beliefs (Sharia, for example). There is an American culture. We believe (Trump supporters) that immigrants should adopt American culture. Why would they come hear to establish what they left behind? Why did they leave if their culture was better?
"America first" is not negative populism. It's common sense. Why would we not put American interests first? I don't think Kasich understand what has happened to our economy because of unfettered immigration.
He's praising what "Camera Hogg" is doing and says it's awesome. Oh, please, John. Give me a break!
Then he turns Reaganesqe and says we are expecting government to solve all our problems. Gee ...sound Trumpish. Trump has been saying since he announced he was running that government wasn't the solution to our problems, but (like Reagan) government is the problem.
Kasich is all over the place. I don't think he knows what he believes.
John Kasich is a Legend in his Own Mind.
He ONLY won ONE STATE (the State of Ohio, where he is Governor) in the 2016 Primary and he by a fairly small margin.
Despite his poor showing in debates and the 2016 Primary - John insisted right up to the end that HE would be the Republican Candidate for President. There is nothing "uniting" about Kasich.
He has burned all his bridges in the Republican Party - he will have to depend on George Soros funding for a run against President Trump.
I don't know much about him but anyone who can get rid of the haters on both fringes and bring us back together is going to win a lot of votes.
The haters are not going away. They are out there trying to destroy a duly elected President. They call themselves, "The Resistance."
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