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Old 04-11-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Early primary voting starts today where I live. A member of the US House of Representatives (but not my representative) is running for Governor. While I very much like this candidate, I don't want this person to be replaced in the House with a member of the other party. I want them to stay put so they can continue to vote for the President's agenda.

I see 3 reasons to vote for or against someone:

1. You want that candidate to win because you like them/their party.
2. You don't want the other candidate to win because you dislike them/their party even more than you like the one from your party.
3. You want the candidate you like to remain in their current position because you don't want someone from the other party to replace them in their current position.

I'm wondering if you ever voted against someone you liked because you wanted them to stay in their current position (#3 above) for whatever reason. Any advice?
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Nope. If they don't want their job any longer, I'm happy to let them go.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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"I'm wondering if you ever voted against someone you liked because you wanted them to stay in their current position (#3 above) for whatever reason. Any advice?"

No, I've never done that.
I would think it unfair to force someone to stay in a position s/he is ready to move on from.

I would also be concerned that mentally that person has already moved on from whatever position they now hold.
By committing to this new position, s/he has pretty much stated that the current job no longer interests them on the same level.
Would you then be getting the same engagement that you had previously?
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Getting specific, in the context of Tennessee, I don't think there is any significant chance the candidate you like running for governor would be replaced by a member of the other party in the House. She is representing an extremely red district where the president and Republican party are far more popular than they are nationwide. If you like the candidate, it would make sense to vote for her for governor and then choose whomever you like best in the House race. She may even endorse one of her prospective successors. Regardless, she is not running for re-election to her House seat whether or not her pursuit of becoming governor is successful.

In a more general sense, I don't recall voting against a candidate wanting a promotion to a different role out of concern they would be leaving their current position. Politicians are always replaceable, although sometimes they may have a special appeal to an area that most others in their party are lacking.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:34 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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I will be helping you on this issue, as I will not be voting for this person for governor. Of course, this person is my rep and I would not vote for them in that position either.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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I've voted against someone I disliked more than I liked their opponent. I think that is one reason Hillary got extra votes. They hated her but she was a known quantity and they knew nothing about Trump. Come 2020 Trump will get new voters because they will realize they actually like some of his policies, their lives have't been adversely affected and may even be better, and the world is still in one piece.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:52 PM
JRR
 
Location: Middle Tennessee
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Getting specific, in the context of Tennessee, I don't think there is any significant chance the candidate you like running for governor would be replaced by a member of the other party in the House. She is representing an extremely red district where the president and Republican party are far more popular than they are nationwide. If you like the candidate, it would make sense to vote for her for governor and then choose whomever you like best in the House race. She may even endorse one of her prospective successors. Regardless, she is not running for re-election to her House seat whether or not her pursuit of becoming governor is successful.

In a more general sense, I don't recall voting against a candidate wanting a promotion to a different role out of concern they would be leaving their current position. Politicians are always replaceable, although sometimes they may have a special appeal to an area that most others in their party are lacking.
Not that I am expecting the district to go Democrat in this election, but the influx of people from different parts of the country is slowly changing the look of Tennessee. It is still a red state, but maybe not as deep a red as previously.

As for the district, between 1982 and 2010 the reps were Democrats. Only in the big surge of 2010 did it swing to a Republican and they have won big since.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:56 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Not that I am expecting the district to go Democrat in this election, but the influx of people from different parts of the country is slowly changing the look of Tennessee. It is still a red state, but maybe not as deep a red as previously.

As for the district, between 1982 and 2010 the reps were Democrats. Only in the big surge of 2010 did it swing to a Republican and they have won big since.

Also, can whomever this Congressman is run for both the House and the Governorship at the same time? Some states allow it and some don't.


It's possible that if he's allowed to do that he could lose both.
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:38 PM
JRR
 
Location: Middle Tennessee
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Also, can whomever this Congressman is run for both the House and the Governorship at the same time? Some states allow it and some don't.


It's possible that if he's allowed to do that he could lose both.
I know that you cannot run for two state offices at the same time but can run for two federal offices at the same time. But I'm not sure on one of each.

But the rep appears to be all in on the governor spot. She may have a bit of a fight in the primary and if that goes her way, we'll see what happens in the general
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Old 04-11-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Not that I am expecting the district to go Democrat in this election, but the influx of people from different parts of the country is slowly changing the look of Tennessee. It is still a red state, but maybe not as deep a red as previously.

As for the district, between 1982 and 2010 the reps were Democrats. Only in the big surge of 2010 did it swing to a Republican and they have won big since.
I think your odds in Tennessee are better for getting a Democratic senator than a local Democratic House rep this cycle. The district is redder than the state, and the Democratic Senate nominee is a former governor with a history of bipartisanship. The Republican Senate nominee (outgoing rep from another district) seems to be more locked into her partisan corner and would probably be a loyal rubber stamp for the president. Of course, that's exactly what a significant part of the electorate wants these days.
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