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Old 04-17-2018, 05:38 AM
 
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Your link is from the primary, not the general election.

But even so , he admits to an educated guess. That flies in the face if your argument .
My argument was he was wrong. Period.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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Latest Update from Cook Political Report

Based upon the latest FEC quarterly financial statements, Cook Political is changing the status on 7 races; they’re not shifting to Democrat favored, but in each case it lowers the probability of a Republican hold.

In the last quarter, Democratic challengers have outraised the Republican candidate(s) in 58 currently held R seats. On the flip side, a Republican has outraised the Democrats in 6 districts currently held by the D’s.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/analys...es-7-districts

As far as the total ratings of seats deemed to be potentially competitive (less than solid rating), there are 84 Republican seats so listed, versus 16 Democratic ones.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/rating...e-race-ratings
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Where can I put money down on WV-3 (R) +23?
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:34 PM
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My argument was he was wrong. Period.
Which still means you are wrong , not him . Again beating the odds doesnt make the odds wrong.
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:36 PM
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Where can I put money down on WV-3 (R) +23?
R+23 = voters who identity as Republican, not that they will necessarily stay republican or that they will turn out to equal that large a margin.
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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R+23 = voters who identity as Republican, not that they will necessarily stay republican or that they will turn out to equal that large a margin.
That is not factual in Southern WV either. It's probably +50 (D).
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:01 PM
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That is not factual in Southern WV either. It's probably +50 (D).
Registered =/= identify

I believe Cook does not go by secretary of state numbers, they send out questionnaires and ask people do they identify more with Rs or D's and what are their beliefs .
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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Registered =/= identify

I believe Cook does not go by secretary of state numbers, they send out questionnaires and ask people do they identify more with Rs or D's and what are their beliefs .
I think they make a wild guess based upon the last election. Ojeda is going to win. Trump only won southern WV because of Obama's and Hillary's position on coal. Joe Manchin will win also, especially if he is running against Blankenship. Blankenship might not be able to get a single vote in WV-3. Well, the governor may vote for him. (not sure if he votes in 2 or 3.)

You can't base anything on the Presidential election. Sanders even beat Hillary in WV.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:26 PM
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I think they make a wild guess based upon the last election. Ojeda is going to win. Trump only won southern WV because of Obama's and Hillary's position on coal. Joe Manchin will win also, especially if he is running against Blankenship. Blankenship might not be able to get a single vote in WV-3. Well, the governor may vote for him. (not sure if he votes in 2 or 3.)

You can't base anything on the Presidential election. Sanders even beat Hillary in WV.
Cook clearly doesn't just go by presidential years though. .

Look we agree there are cross over districts, but at the same time, there are cross over candidates. Ojeda isn't exactly a " progressive" at least on some issues .
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:35 PM
 
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Cook clearly doesn't just go by presidential years though. .

Look we agree there are cross over districts, but at the same time, there are cross over candidates. Ojeda isn't exactly a " progressive" at least on some issues .
He isn't much of one at all. Southern WV isn't a very progressive area either. For lack of a better description WV-3 is old school (D). Back when (D)'s cared more about the people than Wall Street. Ojeda was a leader in getting the teachers a raise over getting the upper percent a tax cut.

Ojeda will help the national (D)'s less than Joe Manchin.
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