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Old 04-18-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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EXACTLY! It seems that all the trump supporters are anti-American TREASONOUS FASCISTS, just like Trump! They should all be deported to Russia!
I don't like Trump either, and I think the question of what would happen if he is found guilty is a valid one, but when you accuse all his supporters - including ordinary voters - of treason and fascism, you damage not only your credibility, but that of everyone else who might otherwise agree with you.

I will say the same thing to you that I would to those on the right who have suggested that all liberals are traitors: that degree of hatred towards one's political opponents is scary.

Having said that, the original question seems to remain unanswered:

If Trump was found, beyond all doubt, of wrongdoing, what would happen? Would his supporters still support him?
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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I wonder, do you do anything other than spend time finding things that make you feel better about the possibility Trump will be impeached or worse? You know, in your heart the chances are slim to none it is going to happen.
Well the chicken-**** GOP members are doing everything they can to avoid it, aren't they
And don't presume to know what is in my "heart"
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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I don't like Trump either, and I think the question of what would happen if he is found guilty is a valid one, but when you accuse all his supporters - including ordinary voters - of treason and fascism, you damage not only your credibility, but that of everyone else who might otherwise agree with you.

I will say the same thing to you that I would to those on the right who have suggested that all liberals are traitors: that degree of hatred towards one's political opponents is scary.

Having said that, the original question seems to remain unanswered:

If Trump was found, beyond all doubt, of wrongdoing, what would happen? Would his supporters still support him?
Or course they would
Look at McConnell's move not to allow the Senate bill (bipartisan) that would protect Mueller to go forward
Look at the move by some House GOP members to compel the DoJ to turn over Comey's notes--which are still part of Mueller's investigation and supposedly "top secret/confidential"
They just want to create a crisis and put Rosenstein in an untenable position--contempt of Congress or impeaching him--
The GOP Congressmembers are ostriches, hiding their heads and their consciences in the sand, about what might be uncovered....
They don't want to know--likely because they are also compromised--
I think the RNC got Russian money to fund their campaigns in 2016--maybe they didn't realize it until after the fact--then they were screwed
They have to keep the lid on Mueller's investigation because it would be death knell to the GOP

And anything that threatens Trump would never be believed by his base
If you have members of his cult believing a pizza restaurant in DC was involved in child-sex-trade in the basement based on Alex Jones's and others like Mike Flynn and his son's tweets--
Why would you think they would believe any truth from any media people
It would take Sean Hannity saying Donald Trump is a traitor --and that might not be enough
Maybe IVANKA coming out and saying her father was a tool of Russia would click---but that won't happen unless it is the only way to save Jared K...
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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Apparently, not all of us from the look of some of the replies to this and other threads.

Tit for tat has never been a legal defense, and it's seldom any good in an argument, either.
It is a defense in the schoolyard, but we should have grown up. You'd be hard-pressed to find a thread on CD that does not invoke that defense somewhere.

In my opinion, it is perfectly fine to point out hypocrisy when it is valid. But making that hypocrisy the cornerstone of an argument is weak.
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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I feel sorry for the suckers who have fallen for this false narrative of Trump colluding with Russia when there isn't a shred of evidence. How do they feel about Hillary colluding with Russia? Facts are there on a silver platter for all to see. Two-tier justice system.

By the way, it's irrelevant because collusion isn't a crime.
Do you think Biden won the election?
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:41 PM
 
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Do you think Biden won the election?
You ask this of Pilgrim's Progress?

Surely you jest!
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