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Old 05-02-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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It didn't really work. All of the politicians that participated in that were rejected for president.
Uh...

Trump attacked Obama - that whole birth certificate thing, just to name ONE thing
Trump attacked Hillary Clinton - lock her up
Trump attacked Bill Clinton - his affairs
Trump attacked Bernie Sanders
Trump attacked Ted Cruz
Trump attacked pretty much every other candidate - Republican and Democraft
Trump attacked George W. Bush on the Iraq War

I think Trump brought it to a new level and won. Pretty much the exact opposite of your statement. But do go on.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Uh...

Trump attacked Obama - that whole birth certificate thing, just to name ONE thing
Trump attacked Hillary Clinton - lock her up
Trump attacked Bill Clinton - his affairs
Trump attacked Bernie Sanders
Trump attacked Ted Cruz
Trump attacked pretty much every other candidate - Republican and Democraft
Trump attacked George W. Bush on the Iraq War

I think Trump brought it to a new level and won. Pretty much the exact opposite of your statement. But do go on.
Trump was in the Senate or House blacking Obama? News to me.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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As much as I hate Trump, not much will change. We will still have this stalemate.

Probably will be the same in 2020 no matter what happens.

Unless some moderates from both sides get electected to work out all the things, out of control in our country and foreign policy.
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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Fixing the health insurance mess. Reworking the tax bill to make permanent and increase cuts for working people while raising the taxes on the rich a bit to cover it (i.e. injecting a bit of fairness into it). Tying to come up with something to deal with staggering student loan debt that is choking the housing industry.
Tax cuts could have been permanent for the middle class but they needed Democrats votes for a total of 60.

“There’s a simple solution. If our Democratic colleagues work with us to get 60 votes,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said during a Finance Committee markup hearing on Wednesday, “we could make it permanent.”
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:32 PM
 
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Tax cuts could have been permanent for the middle class but they needed Democrats votes for a total of 60.

“There’s a simple solution. If our Democratic colleagues work with us to get 60 votes,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said during a Finance Committee markup hearing on Wednesday, “we could make it permanent.”
This was Trump and the republicans tax cuts. They run every branch. So why did they make sure that the tax cuts were permanent for the rich and not the middle class. It’s because republicans are all about making the rich richer. So don’t even try to blame this on Democrats.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:58 PM
 
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I'm willing to pay that in taxes if I never get a huge medical bill that I have to pay out of pocket ever again
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Typical conservative attitude--let's massively cut revenue, and then spend and spend and spend. Who cares about future generations? Screw them! We won't be around to feel the pain we're creating for them.
really? its quite obvious that you have never read ANY of my posts about the budget and what needs to be done to bring it under control. you know things like consolidating departments, eliminating programs that dont work, putting things like welfare and education back under the control of the states, in other words lets stop wasting money on crap, and spend it on the things the constitution allows for.
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Old 05-03-2018, 11:09 PM
 
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really? its quite obvious that you have never read ANY of my posts about the budget and what needs to be done to bring it under control. you know things like consolidating departments, eliminating programs that dont work, putting things like welfare and education back under the control of the states, in other words lets stop wasting money on crap, and spend it on the things the constitution allows for.
How about states paying for their own natural disasters. Then we could elinanate FEMA.
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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really? its quite obvious that you have never read ANY of my posts about the budget and what needs to be done to bring it under control. you know things like consolidating departments, eliminating programs that dont work, putting things like welfare and education back under the control of the states, in other words lets stop wasting money on crap, and spend it on the things the constitution allows for.
If welfare and education were put back in control of the states, red states would have no welfare and would teach creationism in their public schools. No thanks
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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Trump was in the Senate or House blacking Obama? News to me.
Of course not. But roll back this conversation to where our paths intersect:

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For the last 8 years the republican agenda was attack Obama, what goes around comes around.
Ok, so Trump was not a Republican? Not until Jan 20th 2017 when he took office? He wasn't influencing the Republican agenda prior to that date? News to me. Don't be deliberately obtuse. Citizens influence the Republican agenda all the time. Maybe not you or I, but the elite do.
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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Democrat campaigns saying they want equality for all are lies and misdirection. They do not want equal opportunity, but equal outcomes that only come by stealing from those who work for a living and giving to those who vote for a living.
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