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Old 06-22-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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Ojeda and Manchin leads in polling.

Manchin, Ojeda lead in Monmouth University poll

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/electi...a16005ee7.html

I won't vote for Manchin after his vote to confirm Haspel and I can't vote for Ojeda (or at this time I would) but just to note, I said they both would win.
Machin has a big enough lead right now to discourage outside money coming in & without outside money Ojeda will not win as he has to overcome around a 9 point lead.
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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Machin has a big enough lead right now to discourage outside money coming in & without outside money Ojeda will not win as he has to overcome around a 9 point lead.
You have a different source than was posted?
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Machin has a big enough lead right now to discourage outside money coming in & without outside money Ojeda will not win as he has to overcome around a 9 point lead.
I would think the opposite happens.

Ojeda needs Manchin to keep the Republicans away from his House race. Outside money hurts him more than Manchin.
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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This is what the Democrats offer: Return to Government Accountability, respect for the Constitution and rule of law, fiscal sanity, environmental protections, and a check on a rogue White House.

This is just a few benefits.

What do you get with Republicans?


More corruption, More swamp, More insanity, More debt, More environmental degradation, More Constitutional crisis.
This is what the Democrats offer: no plans on job creation, more illegals, more "sexual minorities," more feminism, more swamp. (Dem apologist Bill Maher openly hoped for a recession, even if it hurts people. Pelosi called tax cuts unpatriotic.)

This what you get with Trump: no more Nafta, allies paying for more Nato, less Chinese goods, more Made in America less illegals.

This is what you get from Republicans: less screeching about oppression, more support for Trump.

The number of seats in the House won't change much.
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Old 06-30-2018, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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This is what the Democrats offer: no plans on job creation, more illegals, more "sexual minorities," more feminism, more swamp. (Dem apologist Bill Maher openly hoped for a recession, even if it hurts people. Pelosi called tax cuts unpatriotic.)

This what you get with Trump: no more Nafta, allies paying for more Nato, less Chinese goods, more Made in America less illegals.

This is what you get from Republicans: less screeching about oppression, more support for Trump.

The number of seats in the House won't change much.
I see the Dims double downing to appease the Alt-Left extremists which is no way to pull a majority. with 4.5 months to go, I don't have the sense that the Dims will make that much of a strong move, in fact, they might even lose a few seats thanks to these violent leftist extremists.
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:43 AM
 
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I love it how Obama's Dems got absolutely annihilated in 2010, while Trump's Republicans are either going to keep power or lose only by a small margin.
It really shows how great Trump is, and now much of a complete failure Obama was/is.
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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This is what the Democrats offer: no plans on job creation, more illegals, more "sexual minorities," more feminism, more swamp. (Dem apologist Bill Maher openly hoped for a recession, even if it hurts people. Pelosi called tax cuts unpatriotic.)

This what you get with Trump: no more Nafta, allies paying for more Nato, less Chinese goods, more Made in America less illegals.

This is what you get from Republicans: less screeching about oppression, more support for Trump.

The number of seats in the House won't change much.

Treebeard took everything the Democrats don't offer and turned it into things they do offer! I was a Democrat for about forty years and I am tired of their lies. I will never look back until they again acknowledge what used to be their base - the working man. Now I should clarify that statement by saying the 'legal' working man!

They talk big; but their actions do not back up their words. It's like all the tears about the separated illegal children and where was one tear for American children, separated from their parents, because they decided to break our laws! They are political phonies and they forget who voted for them the second we vote. They also all went far left with no moderates or conservatives allowed. They used terms like racist and they turned out to be the biggest racist.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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Treebeard took everything the Democrats don't offer and turned it into things they do offer! I was a Democrat for about forty years and I am tired of their lies. I will never look back until they again acknowledge what used to be their base - the working man. Now I should clarify that statement by saying the 'legal' working man!

They talk big; but their actions do not back up their words. It's like all the tears about the separated illegal children and where was one tear for American children, separated from their parents, because they decided to break our laws! They are political phonies and they forget who voted for them the second we vote. They also all went far left with no moderates or conservatives allowed. They used terms like racist and they turned out to be the biggest racist.
I agree, the Dems like to talk about how things "should be", whereas Republicans face the reality of how things actually are and how difficult it is to change things.
Unfortunately minorities tend to fall for the emotional and "heartfelt" Dems, but not all of them.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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I agree, the Dems like to talk about how things "should be", whereas Republicans face the reality of how things actually are and how difficult it is to change things.
Unfortunately minorities tend to fall for the emotional and "heartfelt" Dems, but not all of them.
So because things are "hard" we should simply continue on with how things shouldn't be?
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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So because things are "hard" we should simply continue on with how things shouldn't be?

We had almost forty years of both Democrats and Republicans that could have fixed our system in favor of the taxpayers (our working class). What ticks me off is the Democrats claimed they were working for us while patronizing the big donors; they found out that the little guy had little money and they were no longer interested. Instead they turned towards the Wall Street fat cats, the large growers, our banking institution and any country, like Saudi Arabia, willing to grease their palms.


What is this about "hard"? Hard is not having a real raise for forty years; while looking at politicians that are great at taking care of themselves! We voted for true 'change'!
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