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Old 06-29-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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Ever look at the unemployment rates of our European allies ?
You can look it up here:

https://data.oecd.org/emp/labour-for...ation-rate.htm

Looks like more than a dozen European countries have more people working than America.
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:14 PM
 
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Non-sequitur. Alexandria self-identifies as socialist. Venezuela moved heavily towards socialism after the election of Chavez in 1999. That, not corruption, is the source of much of their problems. Socialism (gov't ownership/operation of the means of production) has not worked wherever it has been tried.
If you are a business and you don't want the people involved then don't demand they bail you out.


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The basic problem with socialism is that if everyone owns something, nobody owns it. And if no one owns it, there is no one to hold accountable. There was an old saying in the USSR--they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work. And that's how an economy ends up in ruins.
The taxpayers are on the hook for who knows how much money......why should they not get an interest also?
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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So all you anti socialists believe we don't need social services: fire, police, postal, highways, fema, homeland security, national guard, tax collections, govt (private govt, novel thought) etc etc etc.

I guess trump and company want to privatize everything our country has been built on.
Everyone loves Socialist programs as long as they see themselves directly benefitting.
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Old 06-30-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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“It's built on the best intentions of the public," Kirk said on "Fox & Friends" on Friday. "But as I like to say, socialism has become much more about hating the rich than helping the poor."

Kirk: Left's Growing Socialist Movement Is More About Hating the Rich Than Helping the Poor | Fox News Insider
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Old 06-30-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Are you saying that 'democratic socialist' is not socialist?


Where did I say that we had 'more in common' with Venezuela? Have you read any books about Venezuela? They moved heavily towards socialism only after Chavez. They were actually the most, prosperous nations in South America before Chavez. Chavez was a persuaded, true-believer socialist. And btw, everything that Chavez did, he did by winning elections. So he was a 'democratic socialist.'


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/...017-explained/
Why does Venezuela always come up in these conversations ????? Pretty sure no one wants to mimic Venezuela

why dont you speak about the European nations ?
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Old 06-30-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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“It's built on the best intentions of the public," Kirk said on "Fox & Friends" on Friday. "But as I like to say, socialism has become much more about hating the rich than helping the poor."

Kirk: Left's Growing Socialist Movement Is More About Hating the Rich Than Helping the Poor | Fox News Insider
Dang, Fox said it so it must be true.
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Old 06-30-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Congrats to her, especially after being outspent. I've seen one source that the spending was 18-1, and another 10-1. Either way, that is an inspirational win.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/g...n-fundraising/

Hilary raised $1.2 billion and outspent Trump 2:1, but apparently the $100,000 spent by Russians mostly after the election were the deciding factor.
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Nobody finds it weird Ms Cortez lives in the Bronx and didn’t mention anything about wanting to reduce the crime there ?



Murder rate has skyrocketed in the Bronx, NYPD says
https://nypost.com/2018/06/26/murder...onx-nypd-says/
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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Bad News out of the Bronx

Concern in the Bronx following recent high-profile crimes | abc7ny.com
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:03 AM
 
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You can't expect the people to be less violent than their government. If violence concerns you, why not start at the top?
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