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Old 07-02-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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And do you really not know that more than half of illegal immigrants these days did not cross a border illegally, but rather overstayed a visa after initially arriving legally?
So illegal aliens from 75 different countries illegally cross the Southern border, and some illegal aliens overstay their visas. Neither one is any less illegal. Both types are deportable by ICE for committing crimes. So... what's in it for Dems to keep criminal illegal aliens in the US? More murders? Rapes? DUI incidents that kill Americans? More arsonists that burn thousands of acres of our natural resources and burn down structures? How does any of that help Dems?
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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Hopefully it opens an opportunity for libertarian leaning conservatives to make a move there. Would like to see Colorado remain a swing state
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So illegal aliens from 75 different countries illegally cross the Southern border, and some illegal aliens overstay their visas. Neither one is any less illegal. Both types are deportable by ICE for committing crimes. So... what's in it for Dems to keep criminal illegal aliens in the US? More murders? Rapes? DUI incidents that kill Americans? More arsonists that burn thousands of acres of our natural resources and burn down structures? How does any of that help Dems?
Meanwhile back on planet reality where undocumented residents commit FEWER crimes than native born Americans, I'm far more scared of my son getting shot up by an angry white male than any of the bogeyman fear-mongering fake news claims Trumplings have been stupid enough to believe.
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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Meanwhile back on planet reality where undocumented residents commit FEWER crimes than native born Americans
Statistically, that's false. Just the act of entering and/or remaining in the US illegally is a violation of the law.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Statistically, that's false. Just the act of entering and/or remaining in the US illegally is a violation of the law.
And statistically, what percent of people do you suppose go over the speed limit every day? They are violating the law too.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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And statistically, what percent of people do you suppose go over the speed limit every day? They are violating the law too.
How about that illegal alien that started Colorado's wildfire? How many tens of thousands of acres and homes have burned down now?
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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How about that illegal alien that started Colorado's wildfire? How many tens of thousands of acres and homes have burned down now?
How about all the angry young white men and the people they've murdered and injured? Do I get to kick all angry young white men with access to guns out of the country too?

One person committing a crime doesn't mean an entire group is responsible.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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How about all the angry young white men and the people they've murdered and injured?
Actually, it's disproportionately minorities who murder. Read the FBI crime statistics report.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ender_2013.xls

Don't make the common lefty mistake of forgetting to factor in the percentage of race/ethnicity as a percentage of the population as a whole.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Actually, it's disproportionately minorities who murder. Read the FBI crime statistics report.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ender_2013.xls

Don't make the common lefty mistake of forgetting to factor in the percentage of race/ethnicity as a percentage of the population as a whole.
DON'T DO THAT!

(You take away the momentum of the false narrative!)

That's not fair!
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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And it's disproportionately men who murder. Let's get rid of all of them, then, shall we?

Not to mention that crime stats are flawed because minorities are arrested and prosecuted more than whites, across the board. That doesn't automatically equate to committing crime in disproportionate numbers. But that would require being unbiased when looking at the numbers, of course, to take that into consideration
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