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Old 06-27-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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A lot of Democrats are NOT going to vote for her, a LOT of Republicans are going to vote against her, and nobody honestly believes in socialism...
Many people DO believe in democratic socialism: 13.2 million people voted for Bernie Sanders. He won 23 states.

Ocasio-Cortez won by 15 points in a heavily Democratic district. She is going to Congress, period. Better get used to the idea.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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A lot of Democrats are NOT going to vote for her, a LOT of Republicans are going to vote against her, and nobody honestly believes in socialism, especially a financial market like New York... All the GOP has to do is blasts ads that she is a socialist and the crazy crap she has done... The Dems are pretending to support her so they won't have to waste money on her to try to keep that seat... Make them waste their money GOP...
It's a minority majority district full of immigrants from all over the globe. Republicans are irrelevant. I have a socialist illegal-loving one issue (immigration) nutball as my rep and the GOP doesn't even bother to run anyone. These congressional races are local and trying to apply a broad brush national perspective is taking things too far, I believe. She won on health care and real relief for working familiies. It's going to be huge this fall and the GOP is on the wrong side of public opinion.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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A lot of Democrats are NOT going to vote for her, a LOT of Republicans are going to vote against her, and nobody honestly believes in socialism, especially a financial market like New York... All the GOP has to do is blasts ads that she is a socialist and the crazy crap she has done... The Dems are pretending to support her so they won't have to waste money on her to try to keep that seat... Make them waste their money GOP...
The financal crowd in NYC rules money wise but not in sheer voter numbers, and definitely not in her district. This is a heavily working class minority community, many of whom are immigrants or the decendants of immigrants. The GOP is synonymous wth anti-immigrant rhetoric right now. Plus, income inequality is HUGE in NYC at the moment... the whole "fighting for people who work for a living" thing was a big part of her platform. She'll win in the fall easily.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: NY/LA
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The financal crowd in NYC rules money wise but not in sheer voter numbers, and definitely not in her district. This is a heavily working class minority community, many of whom are immigrants or the decendants of immigrants. The GOP is synonymous wth anti-immigrant rhetoric right now. Plus, income inequality is HUGE in NYC at the moment... the whole "fighting for people who work for a living" thing was a big part of her platform. She'll win in the fall easily.
As someone who lived in that district (#7, then #14) for over 30 years, I agree that there's no way a Republican wins this district in this climate.
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Old 06-27-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Nancy Pelosi seems a little grumpy about Ocasio-Cortez's upset win:


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Old 06-27-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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So whats her plan to pay for a fed job for all, free college, free health care?????? I see this as the DEM's tea party and this one actually costs taxpayers so i think it will fail harder than the actual tea party.
Another uninformed bimbo who thinks money comes from her daddy by just asking for it.
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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A lot of Democrats are NOT going to vote for her, a LOT of Republicans are going to vote against her, and nobody honestly believes in socialism, especially a financial market like New York... All the GOP has to do is blasts ads that she is a socialist and the crazy crap she has done... The Dems are pretending to support her so they won't have to waste money on her to try to keep that seat... Make them waste their money GOP...
Maybe in a suburban district, but this isn't one this is the Bronx dominated by the democratic party, this is a +30 type of district.
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It's all pretty much what real experts have been saying all along. In an effort to show how un-Trumpian they are, the Democrats will chase each other farther and farther left.


Can she win? Probably. But Ocasio-Cortez will arrive in Washington with no power, no committee assignments and will quickly be told to get in line and shut up about abolishing ICE.
And it's not like the Dems are picking up a seat here. They will have lost power while maintaining the same number of seats.
The district is 50% Hispanic, and went for Dems by 75% or so for all recent elections. If I were RNC head, I wouldn't even campaign there.
But she'll run against Anthony Pappas.
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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What you expect and what happens are two different things... Especially when the tires meets the pavement... Low voter turnout means most people didn't show up... Bernie got 13 million out of sixty million... That's 20%, Bernie proved you can't win with 20%... I think you expect a lot of immigrants who themselves escaped from socialist societies to support that kind of person... I think not...
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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She has zero life experience other than being a "community organizer", and is a proud member of the Socialist party of America (what an oxymoron).

Here's some of her beliefs, from her website:


Medicare For All
Housing As a Human Right
A Federal Jobs Guarantee
Gun Control / Assault Weapons Ban
Criminal Justice Reform, End Private Prisons
Immigration Justice / Abolish ICE
Solidarity with Puerto Rico
Mobilizing Against Climate Change
Clean Campaign Finance
Higher Education for All
Women's Rights
Support LGBTQIA+
Support Seniors
Curb Wall Street Gambling: Restore Glass Steagall
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