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Old 06-28-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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Really, I don't care either way. From my standpoint it's trading one useless left wing politicritter for another, and the new one is a cute female. That's an improvement right there.
If we stop caring about big money in politics, we are in big trouble. The overwhelming majority of both left wingers and right wingers believe that big money in politics corrupt the political system. If we shrug our shoulders and simply embrace the corruption, we are complicit.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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A lot of Democrats are NOT going to vote for her, a LOT of Republicans are going to vote against her, and nobody honestly believes in socialism, especially a financial market like New York... All the GOP has to do is blasts ads that she is a socialist and the crazy crap she has done... The Dems are pretending to support her so they won't have to waste money on her to try to keep that seat... Make them waste their money GOP...
If you think a Republican has a shot at winning that district, you need to go to a detox center immediately.
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Old 06-29-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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That's not how it works. Political parties don't voluntarily turn one direction or another -- policy is driven by which faction wins at the ballot box. If enough socialists win seats in Congress they will take over the DNC and force the agenda to change. It's the same thing with the Trump-Fascist Party (formerly known as the Republican Party) -- the GOP didn't voluntarily become the party of Trump. Trump and his base forced it upon them by winning elections and by fear of losing primaries.

Socialist candidates are becoming increasingly popular in some urban areas. Centrist Democrats can win in more rural areas. Thus the need for the Big Tent.
This would be a much more intelligent conversation if you knew what "Fascist" actually meant.
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Old 06-29-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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A lot of Democrats are NOT going to vote for her, a LOT of Republicans are going to vote against her, and nobody honestly believes in socialism, especially a financial market like New York... All the GOP has to do is blasts ads that she is a socialist and the crazy crap she has done... The Dems are pretending to support her so they won't have to waste money on her to try to keep that seat... Make them waste their money GOP...
Her problem is that she's so far to the left that she makes Bernie look conservative. That plays well in some local elections and college students that want free tuition but not anything else.
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Old 06-29-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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Her problem is that she's so far to the left that she makes Bernie look conservative. That plays well in some local elections and college students that want free tuition but not anything else.
Her economic policy platform is to the right of most conservative parties in Europe...

There is nothing radical about health care as a right for every American and strengthening the public safety net. What's radical is to believe that transferring more of the nation's wealth to Wall Street will somehow benefit ordinary Americans.
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Old 06-29-2018, 03:56 PM
 
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Her economic policy platform is to the right of most conservative parties in Europe...
FYI - This isn't Europe and most Americans are quite happy with that fact.
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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FYI - This isn't Europe and most Americans are quite happy with that fact.
Yet, she is not proposing anything different than what Franklin D Roosevelt did, and he is the most popular president in the past 100 years...

It puts things into perspective when we talk about how radical it is and people bring up Venezuela...
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:31 PM
 
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Yet, she is not proposing anything different than what Franklin D Roosevelt did, and he is the most popular president in the past 100 years...

It puts things into perspective when we talk about how radical it is and people bring up Venezuela...
OK, I know you want to get your point across but I can't find a single poll stating Roosevelt is the most popular President in the past 100 years. Maybe if I look hard enough I can find one somewhere.

Personally, I would love a national health plan or single payer health plan of some type and I'm conservative on most other issues. I would never vote for her though because of her other far left ideas, but health care I'm with you. Free college and free housing no. No more ICE, no way ever.
A national healthcare program simply puts us in line with the rest of the civilized world. Her other ideas puts us in line with the Soviet Union which we all know was a flop.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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The economy is disastrous for the working class and has been for decades. Zero income growth for the majority of Americans for the past 20 years. ZERO!

You are watching too much Fox News, where the unemployment numbers are fake depending on who is the president.

These are the same people who think the stock market went down under Obama and unemployed was 10% in 2016. They live in their own fairy tale land being controlled by Fox News.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Hudson Valley of New York
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Her economic policy platform is to the right of most conservative parties in Europe...

There is nothing radical about health care as a right for every American and strengthening the public safety net. What's radical is to believe that transferring more of the nation's wealth to Wall Street will somehow benefit ordinary Americans.

What's amazing this is what conservatives believe in. They believe money = success and poor = lazy. So what if the richer get richer? They earned it.
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