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Old 03-30-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: NC
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"That hate hadn't gone away"...."white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams Of My Father

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs. . . It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

"I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother's race" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

 
Old 03-30-2008, 10:10 AM
 
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you cant call him racist because he s white as well; thats his strength !!!


He can use the N-word without fear !!!
 
Old 03-30-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Austin
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"That hate hadn't gone away"...."white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams Of My Father

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs. . . It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

"I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother's race" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father
Sounds like a young multi-racial male trying to figure out his identity. Was your experience dealing with it different?
 
Old 03-30-2008, 11:15 AM
 
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I don't actually call those racist comments. I think people read into things, and he was talking about his past. If I said that some blacks were cruel, would I be a racist? (Sounds like an interesting book, I should buy it.) Some blacks are cruel. I can honestly say that much of the human race can be very cruel, so does that mean that I am against all humans? At least, unlike God, I do not Damn them by condemning them in hell forever for the misdeeds that they managed to do in their short lifetime on earth. And if you think that many in the white race hasn't been cruel and to a large degree still is cruel to blacks then you have not been in their shoes and had to deal with what they go through. History is replete with the cruelty that mankind has heaped upon others, mostly in the name of religion, but even without it.
 
Old 03-30-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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"That hate hadn't gone away"...."white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams Of My Father

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs. . . It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

"I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother's race" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

Those look like rather thoughtful comments.

Very unlike Bill Clinton absurdly announcing he was the first black president.
 
Old 03-30-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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I don't actually call those racist comments. I think people read into things, and he was talking about his past. If I said that some blacks were cruel, would I be a racist? (Sounds like an interesting book, I should buy it.) Some blacks are cruel. I can honestly say that much of the human race can be very cruel, so does that mean that I am against all humans? At least, unlike God, I do not Damn them by condemning them in hell forever for the misdeeds that they managed to do in their short lifetime on earth. And if you think that many in the white race hasn't been cruel and to a large degree still is cruel to blacks then you have not been in their shoes and had to deal with what they go through. History is replete with the cruelty that mankind has heaped upon others, mostly in the name of religion, but even without it.
Good post. On the comments of the book, I think some people try to read something into the remarks because they do not like Obama for whatever reason. Whites have been and still are to a good degree hateful towards
Blacks. We have not walked in your shoes, but it is about time that we look past color and see the person.
Sassy
 
Old 03-30-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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"That hate hadn't gone away"...."white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams Of My Father
All of you who are defending quotations like the above as being "thoughtful" and saying he was just a confused young man or whatever, imagine how you would react if it came to light that John McCain had published similar remarks about black people. That wouldn't be so "thoughtful", would it?

NObama 2008! McCain/Romney! A vote for Obama is a vote for Osama!
 
Old 03-30-2008, 12:18 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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"That hate hadn't gone away"...."white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams Of My Father

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs. . . It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

"I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother's race" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father

Calling those statements "racist" makes you appear hypersensitive in a very weak manner. You're really searching far too hard to find reasons to justify your hate for Obama.
 
Old 03-30-2008, 12:30 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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All of you who are defending quotations like the above as being "thoughtful" and saying he was just a confused young man or whatever, imagine how you would react if it came to light that John McCain had published similar remarks about black people. That wouldn't be so "thoughtful", would it?
If you'd give your statement just a minute's worth of consideration before posting, it wouldn't come across as inappropriate.

John McCain has never suffered discrimination, institutionalized racism, and lack of opportunity at the hands of a black majority. If he made similar remarks to those of Obama, they'd be ridiculous. He'd never have a reason to make such remarks. It's totally outside of his experience.

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NObama 2008! McCain/Romney! A vote for Obama is a vote for Osama!
Now you're being ridiculous.
 
Old 03-30-2008, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Austin
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All of you who are defending quotations like the above as being "thoughtful" and saying he was just a confused young man or whatever, imagine how you would react if it came to light that John McCain had published similar remarks about black people. That wouldn't be so "thoughtful", would it?

NObama 2008! McCain/Romney! A vote for Obama is a vote for Osama!
Yeah... because the black power system in this country controls the lives of the oppressed whites.
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