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"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 21 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,550 posts, read 16,536,658 times
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Originally Posted by pknopp
I think the claims were "unfair" with Hillary saying "you knew the rules" but when she lost she said "unfair".
Meddling by a foreign power is illegal
Bernie and his people not having a single delegate candidate in some congressional districts is stupidity on their part and has nothing to do with Clinton and yet it was called "cheating"
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Trump can win again for all I care.
Trump's getting out of hand, im going to vote for the Democratic nominee, even if its Bernie. But there are people who arent because they feel as though he tried to subvert the process and is the reason we have Trump in the first place.
Bernie and his people not having a single delegate candidate in some congressional districts is stupidity on their part and has nothing to do with Clinton and yet it was called "cheating"
It was Perez that said it was rigged.
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Trump's getting out of hand, im going to vote for the Democratic nominee, even if its Bernie. But there are people who arent because they feel as though he tried to subvert the process and is the reason we have Trump in the first place.
why the new face?
the giant sucking sound
why?
BLM and muslim brotherhood center stage under the democratic spotlight
fist clenched
dem leadership public statements advocating assassination of the president and police
Status:
"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 21 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,550 posts, read 16,536,658 times
Reputation: 6033
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Originally Posted by pknopp
It was Perez that said it was rigged.
A corporate stooge is a corporate stooge.
Pandering is Pandering.
And I dont have a problem with the argument that "corporate candidates" are a problem, but this argument usually ends up being more along the lines of " anyone progressives dont like is a corporate Democrat"
A big one....as did Hillary. Why do we not demand better?
It could be that we did, but the primary process failed. That's not to say that Trump didn't get the most primary votes or Clinton didn't the most primary votes.
The Democratic Primary was pretty much broken down to the DNC putting the thumb on the scale. I'm not saying Sanders was perfect, but I think he would have stood up the pressure from Trump better than Clinton did.
The Republican Primary's field was too diluted to start with and that allowed someone like Trump to step in and dominate. He worked with the situation and won the nomination in a crowded field. That can't be taken away from him. I think if actual Republicans had coalesced around a single candidate earlier (Republican politicians as well as supporters), then it wouldn't have allowed Trump to thrive.
We should demand better. But the primary system is in place to make us think we have some say when we really don't. Parties stand up various candidates and in some cases, they do have favorites, but in others - they'd be happy with ANY of them.
To Trump's credit, I don't think the party wanted him. In other election cycles, the party probably wouldn't care who won the nomination as long as it was one of the five "choices" that the party gave the people.
It could be that we did, but the primary process failed. That's not to say that Trump didn't get the most primary votes or Clinton didn't the most primary votes.
The Democratic Primary was pretty much broken down to the DNC putting the thumb on the scale. I'm not saying Sanders was perfect, but I think he would have stood up the pressure from Trump better than Clinton did.
The Republican Primary's field was too diluted to start with and that allowed someone like Trump to step in and dominate. He worked with the situation and won the nomination in a crowded field. That can't be taken away from him. I think if actual Republicans had coalesced around a single candidate earlier (Republican politicians as well as supporters), then it wouldn't have allowed Trump to thrive.
We should demand better. But the primary system is in place to make us think we have some say when we really don't. Parties stand up various candidates and in some cases, they do have favorites, but in others - they'd be happy with ANY of them.
To Trump's credit, I don't think the party wanted him. In other election cycles, the party probably wouldn't care who won the nomination as long as it was one of the five "choices" that the party gave the people.
Trump won the day he raised his hand when asked if any candidate would refuse to endorse and back another candidate if they had won. I even give him credit for that. He was able to read the electorate and was willing to not fall in line.
I like Rand Paul but how he could support a Christie if he had won is beyond me. They do not support hardly any of the same positions.
Status:
"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 21 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,550 posts, read 16,536,658 times
Reputation: 6033
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Originally Posted by dspguy
It could be that we did, but the primary process failed. That's not to say that Trump didn't get the most primary votes or Clinton didn't the most primary votes.
The Democratic Primary was pretty much broken down to the DNC putting the thumb on the scale. I'm not saying Sanders was perfect, but I think he would have stood up the pressure from Trump better than Clinton did.
The DNC didnt put its thumb on the scale. The DNC by its very design, cant put its thumb on the scale as State primaries are separate from the DNC.
Of course, trump knew that all he needed was to rattle the base of the party with a crazy racist, and isolationist message, he is crazy palin on steroids, the rest of the work was accomplished by the feud between hillary and bernie, which resulted in several million democrats voting for the chump, problem is, he will not get those votes again, do the math and you'll realize he will be down at least 8 million votes, instead of the 2 million votes loss last election....
If those eight million are in already blue states, he still might win the election. The Dems are going to have to hold their noses and mingle with the deplorables if they want to win.
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