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Old 07-19-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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They left out an important word in their slogan. "For the Illegal People"

Democrats are always trying to BS people.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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So what your saying is, government gave taxpayer monies to select industries and businesses, so government deserves most of the credit? It's nice that they have the power to pick winners and losers, but that doesn't mean that government made those things happen. The government certainly did not create/produce the wealth necessary and needed to invest in these new ventures of the time.

I believe that human progress and achievement is what made these things a reality. The free market and competition is what ultimately makes these things affordable for the masses. If US businesses get greedy and raise prices beyond sustainable levels, it is the free market that knocks them back down where they belong. Government tends to promote inefficiency via subsidies and such, which doesn't reduce the total costs, but only transfers them to someone else, or ends up increasing the deficit. We've already bankrupted several future generations by doing these things.
Doesn't matter if they created the wealth. They funded the projects that became the backbone of the modern era. Without the govt directing the funding, there is no free market to be built around those emerging technologies.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Houston
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It beat out White Men Stink for the dem slogan
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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It's better than the Republican's slogan "Make Russia Great Again".

LOL. I like For the People a lot better.

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So, the Democrats are a populist party now?
One could say the same thing about the Republican party. There were always populist-type Democrats that opposed NAFTA, TPP, etc. Sherrod Brown for one,
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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The "Better Deal" thing was them trying to appeal to rural voters which I wish they would move on, like we're never going to win back that group which is fine, we need to focus on suburban, college educated folks, those are the ones who are voting Democrat in the special elections and in polling who have the most consternation when it comes to Trump.
Ask Hillary how well ignoring rural voters worked out for her. Bill tried to warn her about that but she didn’t listen. I lean Democrat and despise Trump, but alienating a group of people is not the way to go.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Has anyone heard anything about a better deal? Or a better anything from Dems?
Hillary would have raised our national debt to 85%-95% of GDP, while Trump will raise our debt to 110%-145% of GDP. And Hillary "would (have) spent $350 billion more on college education, $300 billion more on infrastructure, another $300 billion on paid family leave, and nearly half a trillion on a variety of other initiatives." But Donald Trump took that money and gave it to large corporations and the richest 1% via the Trump tax cuts.
Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/

Trump and republicans also plan to cut Social Security and Medicare, cut up to $1 trillion dollars in government assistance to needy Americans, cut education funding, and cut science and medical research to further pay for tax cuts for large corporations and the richest 1%.
Republicans Will Cut Social Security and Medicare After Tax Plan Passes, Says Marco Rubio
Trump budget cuts spending by $3.6 trillion over 10 years, with deep cuts to safety net - Chicago Tribune
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017...s-to-education
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2ffaa877df8f

And Trumps corporate deregulation will cause American workers to get less overtime pay, less retirement savings, more wage theft, and more work place injuries.
https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...rtime-pay-cut/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.345da7d6abc1
https://boingboing.net/2018/03/25/ki...is-speech.html
https://qz.com/1072054/dismantling-t...n-from-within/
Trump boasts about dumping many Obama-era regulations. Here's a look at some

Trumps corporate deregulation will also increase Americans cancer rates in everything from breast cancer to asbestos exposure.
EPA won
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-...tances-review/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ashing-the-epa
https://www.ewg.org/release/trumps-e...k#.WwHUQdQvzIV
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.34ef6fa868dd
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justcap.../#702c451d64bf
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...on-agency.html
Trump team gutting EPA when we need it most | TheHill


Lower national debt, money spent on infrastructure, programs to help the needy, bigger SS checks, higher worker wages, and less Americans with cancer sounds like "a better deal" to me.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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Solar panels says otherwise.
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Does that include the half billion dollar plus sunk cost of Solyndra?
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Sure.
So in other words, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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For the People.
I like that a lot.
It's about time we got back to that.
The Real values and tradition our Country stands for.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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So in other words, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Uh-huh. Bc Solyndra, amirite?
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