How will Democrats defeat Donald Trump in 2020? (John Kerry, bias, president)
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It depends on how they want to tackle things. It is easy to be anti-Trump to garner votes.
Illegal Immigration - caged toddlers
Border security - endless ads with the "crying babies" soundbites. And isn't Mexico paying for the wall?
The economy - we don't know what it'll be in 2020, but right now, it is a continuation of the last administration's economy
Jobs - again, continuation of the last 8 years (unemployment falling steadily, wage growth not up yet)
Taxes - handout to corporations, but this is a hard sell because Americans are self-centered
War - I hope not
Foreign Policy - North Korea, Russia and disenfranchising our allies
Healthcare - I thought we were getting something better than Obamacare/ACA in Jan 2017? Where is it? Morals/ethics/etc - This is part of what Bush 43 ran on in 2000 to counter Clinton's scandals while in office. It worked.
Of course, solutions are harder. But that's only a problem when your party actually governs.
What's interesting is that depending on what kool-aid you drink, you'd think that Trump is unstoppable/doomed-to-failure in 2020 because of the laundry list of achievements/failures.
Nothing is near certain. Trump won the rust belt by the skin of his teeth. But he did win. Historically, incumbents hold a natural advantage. I think if Trump can sell what his opposition sees as "failures" to actually be "wins" then he might win in 2020. The thing to keep in mind is that the people that are steadfast about topics such as "MSM Fake News" and "Witch Hunt Mueller Investigation" are already people in Trump's base. These are mostly a turn-off to the other 64% of the population. However, Trump only needs to sway 11-12% of those 64% to have them look the other way on all his questionable decisions/actions to win the Electoral College.
Edit: Something else to consider:
In 2000, the president resided over:
- Lowest unemployment in decades (lower than now)
- Highest wage growth - it has never been higher since 2000, not even today
- High GDP - it hasn't reached late 90s levels since then
While Clinton didn't run in 2000, his "party" did run. And with a roaring economy and not being entangled in the wars we are today, that party lost. There's a lot more to winning an election than that. Sometimes all it takes is one major flaw that can be exploited by the opposing party.
In that respect, Democrats have many flaws that they can pick from. But can they capitalize? That remains to be seen.
Nominate somebody halfway competent and without decades of political baggage that can be exploited by the right. Nominate somebody that can connect with younger voters. That's all it will take. Trump isn't expanding his base. The 2020 election will be decided on whether or not the people who stayed home in 2016 (or voted Johnson or Stein) also stay home in 2020.
You cant win elections consistently being anti-religion (70% of voters) and anti-white (63% of voters).
70% of the population may be religious but most of them don't support the theocratic agenda of the religious right. Democrats can run against theocracy and against end-times fundamentalists dictating our foreign and environmental policy.
So, that means going soft on illegal immigration, being for open borders, accepting the spread of Islamic terrorism, being anti-military and anti- law enforcement and having high unemployment?
Good luck with that message.
Good luck appealing to a majority of the public with the Cheeto-in-Chief. He might win re-election, but only through winning enough states to eke through the political slot machine a.k.a. the Electoral College. He has never had the support of the majority of the American People, and it’s unlikely that he ever will.
Beyond Trump, believing that the Republican Party is going to have long term success in presidential elections requires faith that they can continually win through the Electoral College while losing the national popular vote. In the entire history of Presidential Elections there have only been a handful of elections where a candidate won the Electoral College while losing the national popular vote: 1824 (J.Q. Adams), 1876 (Hayes),1884 (B. Harrison), 2000 (Dubya) and 2016 (Trump). That’s 5 Times in 58 Presidential Elections. Bush in 2004 was the only one prior to Trump to be re-elected. He is also the only Republican nominee in the last 7 POTUS elections to win the popular vote. That string of 6 out of 7 times winning the national popular vote ia a first in American political history.
Last edited by Bureaucat; 07-23-2018 at 03:55 PM..
By now, DNC should be hard at work kissing deplorables cheeks.
No Rust Belt, no DNC path to 270.
They understand the power in their hands now.
Sorry, NO. I do not want to cater to the Rust Belt and would rather regionalize the country. Democrats need to embrace state's rights wherever possible. Elect Democrats that support state's rights to work toward the independence of blue states. A country that caters to the failing Rust Belt is a country doomed to failure. These people think education is elitist. These people are waiting for coal to come back. These people are voting to increase pollution. These people want to make abortion illegal so they are forced to support a massive increase in desperately poor mothers and babies. These people want to end health coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. These people think tariffs are the answer to every question. These people believe our allies are our enemies and dictators are our friends. We should never ever ever cater to these people.
Democrats need to simply focus on the success of blue states, hire from blue states, support blue candidates in blue states and ignore the demise of red states. They cannot be helped and honestly, after what we've seen the last 18 months, do we even want to help them? End farm subsidies. Tell them there are too many farmers and to get actual jobs. They are taking our tax dollars and we are paying them NOT to grow crops. It's ridiculous.
I hope we get a Democratic president next. I hope someone like Howard Schultz wins. But I view it as a short term solution and the long term solution is to regionalize this country so we can once again work toward our own success without dealing with parts of the country we will never ever ever agree with. And I think red states would agree to this as well.
democrats don't need to beat trump in 2020. all democrat voters have to do is elect a majority democrat house and a majority democrat senate to beat trump's agenda.
Good luck appealing to a majority of the public with the Cheeto-in-Chief. He might win re-election, but only through winning enough states to eke through the political slot machine a.k.a. the Electoral College. .
EC-same system we have used for most of our multi century history.
Sorry, NO. I do not want to cater to the Rust Belt and would rather regionalize the country.
I hope we get a Democratic president next..
Your paragraphs argue with themselves.
No Rust Belt, no wwc support (yes we know you hate that demographic), No Democrat in the Oval Office-except for when the GOP POTUS invites them for brunch, of course.
Sun Belt plus Rust Belt > 270 ECs, and will add 6-10 each and every census as fara s the eye can see.
Deplorables will decide the 2020 election.
MAGA
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