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Old 04-02-2008, 03:47 PM
 
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In stating his reasons for endorsing Obama the Democrat governor of Wyoming, David Freudenthal, listed Obama's commitment not to allow drilling for oil in Wyoming's western range. So there you have it. The official position of the Democratic party is to ensure that America does not achieve energy independence, because nothing will ensure energy independence like continued dependence on oil thus making us subject to the whims of the likes of Hugo Chavez and the oil sultans of the Middle East. Hmm, sounds like the republic party's platform...The Democrats are waging war on fossil fuels and if that means pain, real pain, for the rest of us, so be it.Sounds like the republic party again... But hey, it's ok because these liberal fat cats from Hollywood to Wall Street Yes Wall Street, home of liberal America... have theirs, and that's all that counts.
Good job.

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Old 04-02-2008, 04:04 PM
 
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Newsflash: Don't argue with pghquest. It's pointless.
Yes, its pointless to argue with someone who doesnt sit here and look at blah blah blah blah Bush Blah Bad... without seeing the truth..

You may not like the truth, I may not like the truth, but all of your lifes problems is not because of BUSH.. Nor is it his, or Clintons/Obamas responsibility or even authorization to take care of YOUR problems..

Compassion, feelings, emotions, does not come into play when your dealing with legal issues.. Sorry but no where is it stated that I should be compassionate for YOUR problems.. I enough of my own thank you.

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Old 04-02-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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Wait, you missed the best part... The Governor of Wyoming just supported Obama because he doesnt want high paying, high benefit, good quality jobs in his region also. He'd rather see people in the Middle East with jobs then his own people he represents..
Maybe the governor of Wyoming can bring some high paying, high benefit, good quality jobs to his state by making Wyoming the center of the development of autos that run on cheap alternative fuels or get 200mpg on a gallon of gas. That will do tons more to make the US energy independent than sucking out what little oil they still have left in the ground over there.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:26 PM
 
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Maybe the governor of Wyoming can bring some high paying, high benefit, good quality jobs to his state by making Wyoming the center of the development of autos that run on cheap alternative fuels or get 200mpg on a gallon of gas. That will do tons more to make the US energy independent than sucking out what little oil they still have left in the ground over there.
"maybe"? Wow, thats one heck of a way to start an argument..

But, until you tell me what that cheap, alternative fuel source, or you tell me where we get that autos that get 200 mpg on a gallon of gas, your post is just that..

a made up wanna be maybe, that may, or may not, pay taxes or provide jobs.... maybe...
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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Yes, its pointless to argue with someone who doesnt sit here and look at blah blah blah blah Bush Blah Bad... without seeing the truth..

You may not like the truth, I may not like the truth, but all of your lifes problems is not because of BUSH.. Nor is it his, or Clintons/Obamas responsibility or even authorization to take care of YOUR problems..

Compassion, feelings, emotions, does not come into play when your dealing with legal issues.. Sorry but no where is it stated that I should be compassionate for YOUR problems.. I enough of my own thank you.
No of course not. Bush has NOTHING to do with state we're in as a country.No, Iraq hasn't affected any American in the US. The war hasn't affected us at all. The bad economy, the fall of the value of the dollar, the war, which made everything more expensive, starting with Gas.No, he has NOTHING to do with that. Nothing to do with the fact that it's much more expensive to buy gas and food. Nothing at all.Yeah, many problems are BECAUSE OF BUSH.And that's why we are voting the Republicans out of office.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:00 PM
 
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The truth is that he doesn't have much to do with any of the economic problems or price of gas. Obama isn't going to be able to do much etiher. The congress sure hasn't. If any of them had a magic bullet they would have fired it along time ago.And to believe that people really thiought that democratic congress would solve everyhting.Makes you wonder if people live in reality.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:30 PM
 
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No of course not. Bush has NOTHING to do with state we're in as a country.No, Iraq hasn't affected any American in the US. The war hasn't affected us at all. The bad economy, the fall of the value of the dollar, the war, which made everything more expensive, starting with Gas.No, he has NOTHING to do with that. Nothing to do with the fact that it's much more expensive to buy gas and food. Nothing at all.Yeah, many problems are BECAUSE OF BUSH.And that's why we are voting the Republicans out of office.
I hate to be one to provide you with bad news, but
Iraq, has had very little affect upon the price of oil, especially considering that Iraq pumps 10times the amount of oil now then they did 10 years ago..

The value of the dollar, is controlled by the Federal Reserves

The price to buy gas, (didnt you just name that), and food, has gone up because of the price of gas, and the experimental alternative energy which is a failed policy of the Congress under the Clinton administration...

You can vote as many Republicans out of office in the White House that you wish, but until CONGRESS starts to do their job.. all you doing is shuffling the deck before going home..
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:57 PM
 
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I hate to be one to provide you with bad news, but
Iraq, has had very little affect upon the price of oil, especially considering that Iraq pumps 10times the amount of oil now then they did 10 years ago..

The value of the dollar, is controlled by the Federal Reserves

The price to buy gas, (didnt you just name that), and food, has gone up because of the price of gas, and the experimental alternative energy which is a failed policy of the Congress under the Clinton administration...

You can vote as many Republicans out of office in the White House that you wish, but until CONGRESS starts to do their job.. all you doing is shuffling the deck before going home..
Funny. The war in Iraq has made the region more unstable. So..newsflash, it has.The value of dollar is controlled by the federal reserve. Funny. The value of the dollar drops when the economy weakens and the country stacks up debt...and many other reasons. Not the direct actions of the Feds, indirect - yes(Wars that cost Billions of dollars). Sure congress can do their jobs once we have a president (democrat), that will CO-OPERATE with them. So Democratic congress + Democratic Presidential = Progress.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:08 PM
 
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Funny. The war in Iraq has made the region more unstable. So..newsflash, it has.The value of dollar is controlled by the federal reserve. Funny. The value of the dollar drops when the economy weakens and the country stacks up debt...and many other reasons. Not the direct actions of the Feds, indirect - yes(Wars that cost Billions of dollars). Sure congress can do their jobs once we have a president (democrat), that will CO-OPERATE with them. So Democratic congress + Democratic Presidential = Progress.
The only thing funny is the fact that you continue to post here proving your ignorance.
Iraq made the region more unstable? News flash.. The region has been unstable for decades!!

Dollar is controlled by the Federal Reserve, you dont know this? Now thats FUNNY...Federal Reserve System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The war costing Billions? Actually, it cost over a Trillion, Voted for by Republican AND Democrats..

As for your Cooperation thought, wrong.. Congress needs to not cooperate with the White House.. thats what got us into trouble, (note the Republican White House, and Republican led congress for several years).

Fact.. Bill Clinton who Democrats like to toute as the "best President ever".. was so effective because he didnt have coopration.. He had a Republican led Congress.

Fact.. This economy has been tanking, under a Democratic led Congress.

The most histerical part is the fact that people want to sit here complain about the high cost of gas, and its the same individuals who dont even know what branch of the government does what..
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:23 PM
 
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The only thing funny is the fact that you continue to post here proving your ignorance.
Iraq made the region more unstable? News flash.. The region has been unstable for decades!!

Dollar is controlled by the Federal Reserve, you dont know this? Now thats FUNNY...Federal Reserve System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The war costing Billions? Actually, it cost over a Trillion, Voted for by Republican AND Democrats..

As for your Cooperation thought, wrong.. Congress needs to not cooperate with the White House.. thats what got us into trouble, (note the Republican White House, and Republican led congress for several years).

Fact.. Bill Clinton who Democrats like to toute as the "best President ever".. was so effective because he didnt have coopration.. He had a Republican led Congress.

Fact.. This economy has been tanking, under a Democratic led Congress.

The most histerical part is the fact that people want to sit here complain about the high cost of gas, and its the same individuals who dont even know what branch of the government does what..
You have the nerve to say I am proving my ignorance with this post.The Feds DO NOT CONTROL THE VALUE of the dollar overseas. They control money printed and money loaned to banks. Basically they are police of our banking system. They control THE COST of borrowing money. NOT ITS VALUE. You think the FEDS are happy the Dollar is at an all time low with the Euro and Pound. Or that Canada's and US's are almost Equal In VALUE.So the Fed Res. doesnt have a DIRECT say on the VALUE of the dollar. Now actions and reactions cause the dollar to fall in VALUE. And yes...Iraq has made the region MORE unstable since we came in. Of course it's be unstable before the war. We all know that. It's been unstable since the start of civilization!So....stop showing your ignorance Mr. Government expert!

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