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Old 11-14-2018, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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It's hard to argue that 37 seats is not a wave, but I still think it was underperformance. With the 40 GOP house retirements, and average pickup of 32 seats by the party out of power in midterms, Dems should have won closer to 50 house pickups. And they should have added, not lost, in the Senate.

GOP still leads 27-23 in governorships, and about 60% overall.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It's hard to argue that 37 seats is not a wave, but I still think it was underperformance. With the 40 GOP house retirements, and average pickup of 32 seats by the party out of power in midterms, Dems should have won closer to 50 house pickups. And they should have added, not lost, in the Senate.

GOP still leads 27-23 in governorships, and about 60% overall.
I'm not really sure how this can be viewed as an under-performance in the House. This wasn't 2010 or 1994, but this was still the 3rd largest House pick-up since 1974. The Democrats picked up more House seats than they did in 2006
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's hard to argue that 37 seats is not a wave, but I still think it was underperformance. With the 40 GOP house retirements, and average pickup of 32 seats by the party out of power in midterms, Dems should have won closer to 50 house pickups. And they should have added, not lost, in the Senate.

GOP still leads 27-23 in governorships, and about 60% overall.
Yabut, we got RID OF that snake WALKER in WISCONSIN. Yea!!....... a four seat differential in governorships is a HUGE improvement.

Further, no one expected Dems to have it easy in the House with the ridiculously gerrymandered districts. That Democrats did as well as they did considering the gerrymandering says a lot about the mood of the country.

No one expects a deep red state to turn blue - the cultural divide is far too huge. But, all in all, the Democrats did unexpectedly well.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:36 PM
 
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Republicans must disabuse themselves of the notion that it wasn't a blue wave. It clearly was. Republicans got decimated in the suburbs.

Granted, the Democrats will probably spend the next two years in circular firing squad mode, and then nominate somebody awful in 2020 and blow it for themselves. Like, upwards of 50% chance of that happening.


But if the Democrats don't blow it for themselves, Trump is in trouble in 2020.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Who's crying now? (apologies to Journey)

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Waaaah! Make them quit saying it wasn't a Blue Wave! It WAS a blue wave; why it was the biggest Blue Wave I have ever seen, wasn't it, Mommy?!


Call it whatever you like. GOP holds the White House and Senate and makes the decisions.
What happened to that tRump "red wave" that he kept blabbing about?

Enjoy the big "win."

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Old 11-15-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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What happened to that tRump "red wave" that he kept blabbing about?

Enjoy the big "win."




LOL,LOL,LOL!
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Ironically, the biggest #walkaway participants were previously reliable Republican voters in suburbia. So much for that movement.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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I'm not really sure how this can be viewed as an under-performance in the House. This wasn't 2010 or 1994, but this was still the 3rd largest House pick-up since 1974. The Democrats picked up more House seats than they did in 2006



You also have to factor in how gerrymandered many of the seats are to favor Republicans. The elections in this decade have far different congressional district makeups which make comparing elections to the past problematic as it is not exactly apples to apples.



I am seeing that the Dems have picked up 36 seats as of today with eight still to be decided. The Democrat leads in several of these and the ME race ranked choice count is expected to drop the Republican to 2nd place. In the end the D's may pick up about 40 seats.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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You also have to factor in how gerrymandered many of the seats are to favor Republicans. The elections in this decade have far different congressional district makeups which make comparing elections to the past problematic as it is not exactly apples to apples.



I am seeing that the Dems have picked up 36 seats as of today with eight still to be decided. The Democrat leads in several of these and the ME race ranked choice count is expected to drop the Republican to 2nd place. In the end the D's may pick up about 40 seats.
As of now I am seeing the Democrats picking up a net of 34 seats with 7 outstanding (they picked up 37 and lost 3). They likely take 4 or 5 of the remaining 7 and net 38 or 39 (running the table isn't out of the question but unlikely). Gerrymandering did hold their margins down somewhat, but still likely would not have been a 94 or 2010 type of gain without it. Overall though, the 3rd biggest gain in 44 years is impressive no matter what.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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It's not just Congress. In my state of Colorado, Democrats took every major state-wide office, expanded their comfortable majority in the State House of Representatives and flipped the State Senate back to blue.
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