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Old 11-16-2018, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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One party rule for America! Democrat liberals now and forever! Happiness and prosperity will be complete for ever more!
Stating this is pretty ironic given that it has been Republicans who have held one party rule for the last two years. Democrats winning the House does not bring one party rule to the country, rather it results in more of a balance. But it is probably too much to ask for both sides to work together constructively.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Goodbye.
Yeah, I guess bringing this up and expecting a constructive dialogue was maybe unrealistic. I appreciate the snarky response though. Bravo.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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Long ago, about 15 years ago, I was a registered Republican. Around 2007 I switched to Independent, and as Republicans have gone further to the right I have supported candidates on the left more often. I agree with the statement that the Republican Party is now the party of fear and paranoia. Everything about their actions over the last 10 years screams of a party losing grip on demographics. Both parties are guilty of personal attacks and incivility, but Republicans under Trump have taken it to a new low. Moderates like myself are tired of it. Now we have the Republican Party wrapping itself up in nationalism, trying to stack the Supreme Court with social conservatives, and generally finding any way they can to circumvent the Constitution and our system of checks and balances. Both parties need to start over and get back to the basic principles they used to represent, but in my opinion the current crop of Republicans no longer represent the interests of this nation.

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Old 11-17-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I've got relatives in West Virginia coal country. The county went 80% for Trump in 2016 because he promised that the jobs would come back. Visited there last month. Jobs didn't come back but they are still supporting Trump and believing the jobs will return. Kind of sad, but hope is all they have. The poverty in the area is disheartening.
West Virginia is one of the few states who performed worse this year than last. Poverty keeps growing.

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And, what exactly, have democrats done about this^^^^issue? Answer: Nothing.

At one time democrats truly cared about the poor, working and middle classes. They would have been horrified to learn that their constituents were either seeing their wages depressed or were being displaced in the workforce due to illegal immigration. And they would have done something about it, too---and I don't mean amnesty. Today's democrats put illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed Americans.

Neither party is looking out for Americans but at one time I expected much, much better from the democrats. Anyone who thinks democrats still care about Americans isn't paying attention. The dems hope that it stays that way, too.

Hillary actually had a plan for WV; she visited there but it involved re-training with renewables instead of coal jobs and they didn't want to hear it.

They WANTED to hear Trump promise coal jobs and now they are poorer than ever.

WV isn't enticing to big corporations because it's a geographic challenge and now . . the people there have the reputation of not wanting to work OR not being able to pass a drug test.

It wasn't always this way.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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The Republican Party doesn’t exist anymore. It’s become the Trump party. Republicans in office has allowed this because they are to weak to stand up to him....pretty pathetic since they are elected to represent us, not elected to be cowards
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What I mean by the topic name is that it has now become abundantly clear to me that the Republican party’s central platform and campaign strategy is fear and resentment, and frankly it depresses me.

I’ve voted for republican candidates in the past, and as recently as 5 years ago...however, I’m not sure I ever will again. The fear, hatred and resentment that drives the party’s agenda and energizes it’s base is now in dangerous territory and it’s difficult for me to envision a way out of this hole.

It wasn’t always this way. I remember not too far back when the party had a positive message supported by conservative values and fiscal responsibility. That has been replaced with tribalism, nationalism and protectionism, fear-mongering, building walls, etc. etc. It’s gotten very dark.

Anyway, I’m wondering if anyone here agrees and also has a problem with the direction the party is heading.
Republicans are even getting too much for part of the highly red state of Oklahoma to handle. Oklahoma City elected a Democrat rep for Congress for the first time this century.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:11 PM
 
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I agree. I was a reliable Republican voter. However, unless I see a serious change I don't know when I will vote for a Republican for a national office again. I'd rather vote Democrat and for some policies with which I don't agree that for core principles that I vehemently oppose.

Who are you kidding? you are not fooling me. You were a reliable Republican voter but now you will vote Democrat because of what? open borders? more globalism? endless wars and occupations? higher taxes? socialism healthcare? identity politics? if you are ok with those things then you were just a RINO.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:18 PM
 
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Long ago, about 15 years ago, I was a registered Republican. Around 2007 I switched to Independent, and as Republicans have gone further to the right I have supported candidates on the left more often. I agree with the statement that the Republican Party is now the party of fear and paranoia. Everything about their actions over the last 10 years screams of a party losing grip on demographics. Both parties are guilty of personal attacks and incivility, but Republicans under Trump have taken it to a new low. Moderates like myself are tired of it. Now we have the Republican Party wrapping itself up in nationalism, trying to stack the Supreme Court with social conservatives, and generally finding any way they can to circumvent the Constitution and our system of checks and balances. Both parties need to start over and get back to the basic principles they used to represent, but in my opinion the current crop of Republicans no longer represent the interests of this nation.
the party of fear and paranoia is the Democrat party. They prove that every day when a Republican President is in the WH and is worse under Trump.


What's wrong in putting conservative judges that will obey the constitution as it was written instead of having liberal activist judges that will make laws from the bench?

Nationalism means putting American Citizens and the country first above the interests of other countries and foreign interests. That means ending bad trade deals and ending endless wars and endless occupations.

again, if you don't get that then you are the problem and no wonder you vote democrat with their identity politics.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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The Republican Party doesn’t exist anymore. It’s become the Trump party. Republicans in office has allowed this because they are to weak to stand up to him....pretty pathetic since they are elected to represent us, not elected to be cowards
wrong....the Republican party went from the neocon globalism of the Bush doctrine (that the left hated ) to the Republican party of nationalism of putting our country first above other countries like Trump is doing, which the left also hates.


It doesn't matter what way the Republican Party goes, the left and progressives will complain and demonize the right. They did it under Reagan, Bush and now Trump and the ones that didn't make it like Dole, Mccain, and Romney the left demonized as racist, warmongers and they hate the poor and the elderly. so stop the B.S., we weren't born yesterday. It's the same broken record the Democrats play to gain power.


Obama didn't make things better. There is a reason why under Obama the Democrat party became the minority party at all levels including states and that was before Trump entered politics. Obama divided the country and I didn't see too many Democrats stand up to him or stand up to Hillary Clinton when everybody knew she was the most corrupt politician in D.C..
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:06 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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the party of fear and paranoia is the Democrat party. They prove that every day when a Republican President is in the WH and is worse under Trump.


What's wrong in putting conservative judges that will obey the constitution as it was written instead of having liberal activist judges that will make laws from the bench?

Nationalism means putting American Citizens and the country first above the interests of other countries and foreign interests. That means ending bad trade deals and ending endless wars and endless occupations.

again, if you don't get that then you are the problem and no wonder you vote democrat with their identity politics.
Kind of amusing to see that statement when it was the Republicans who were spreading 24/7 fear about the immigrant caravan. It was as if, no matter what corner of America one was in, they could expect the immigrants to roll down their street at any minute, raping and pillaging.
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